New Mississippi Legislature - Nitrous Outlawed - July 1st

[mech4matsnova]

I was reading the local paper the other day and found this. Seems like more and more states are doing this. All this came after some asshat in a trans am ran from a trooper. While in pursuit, the trooper lost control of his crown vic and hit a tree, causing his death. The T/A had a wet kit that was still charged when they found the car a few days later in a barn covered with a tarp. Its yahoos like that that give the rest of us a hard time with law enforcement and the legislature. Ive linked the articles below.

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2010100402008
http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20103240352

 

[MustangChris]

"catch me if you can, coppers!"

 

[ARdoller]

ok, so what? You shouldn't be using it on the street anyway.

 

[98GTnSC]

ok, so what? You shouldn't be using it on the street anyway.

exactly. just leave the tank out of the car until u go to the track. pretty easy to remove

 

[got5.0]

I don't see what the big deal is. No matter how many laws and $hit people make, people are always going to use nitrious on the street, whether it is politically correct or not. The mississippi legislature can kiss my little white butt.

 

[Petek]

nitrous has been banned around here for a long time, it has not really affected anybody lol.

 

[got5.0]

^my point exactly lol

 

[MustangChris]

well, #1...
the effect of the law can only go so far to the "event that began a scenario"

an example:
sally parked her car on a hill without the parking break on.
the car rolls down the hill and htis a traffic poll.
the poll falls over and catches a field on fire.
the field fire goes to a barn.
the barn fire goes to the adjacent house.
the fire kills a farmer in the adjacent house.
should sally get charged with the farmers death?

the answer is no.
therefore, how can we blame trooper A's death on driver B's use of N2O?
the trooper didnt HAVE to pursue. Driver A didnt drive the troopers car into a tree. etc. etc. etc.

i feel this is a little far reaching, but the effecs will be minimul, as most people will shrug and un-plug their tanks.

 

[ttocs]

well, #1...
the effect of the law can only go so far to the "event that began a scenario"

an example:
sally parked her car on a hill without the parking break on.
the car rolls down the hill and htis a traffic poll.
the poll falls over and catches a field on fire.
the field fire goes to a barn.
the barn fire goes to the adjacent house.
the fire kills a farmer in the adjacent house.
should sally get charged with the farmers death?

the answer is no.
therefore, how can we blame trooper A's death on driver B's use of N2O?
the trooper didnt HAVE to pursue. Driver A didnt drive the troopers car into a tree. etc. etc. etc.

i feel this is a little far reaching, but the effecs will be minimul, as most people will shrug and un-plug their tanks.

I ain't a lawyer but I watch alot of judge judy, and I am pretty sure that unless the brake failed or something, she caused the accident and she caused the death.....

 

[sn95gtvert]

its been outlawed in oregon for awhile, i've seen people hide there installs pretty damn well to avoid any trouble.

fake sub box in the trunk with a bottle in it, hallowed out rear seats with bottle under it and so on.

just remember its not illegal to have the stuff in your car, its illegal to use it or have intent to use it.

 

[ARdoller]

I cant think of one legitimate reason why nitrous should be legal on public roads anywhere.

 

[switch96]

In Ohio we can have everything setup with the bottle filled and everything, but the bottle CANNOT be open. Which is why I'm getting a remote bottle opener :grin:.

If you had 100hp at the flip of a switch you'd use it too. I don't race people, its just fun.

 

[switch96]

I cant think of one legitimate reason why nitrous should be legal on public roads anywhere.

I don't see what the difference is between nitrous and any other power adder in terms of safety.

 

[ProKiller]

I cant think of one legitimate reason why nitrous should be legal on public roads anywhere.

I don't see what the difference is between nitrous and any other power adder in terms of safety.

I somehow find myself agreeing with both of these statements. I can't really think of a reason to use nitrous to pull out of a traffic light or onto a highway but at the same time i hit boost pulling onto ramps sometimes. I don't like how they are discriminating against N2O but I can't ever see them outlawing a turbo or blower. They are factory installed options for a lot of cars. hell the entire freight industry runs on turbos.

The second article said it was the first officer to die in line of duty in over a decade. this is why. They lost one of their own and are now freaking out and over reacting.

 

[MustangChris]

well, #1...
the effect of the law can only go so far to the "event that began a scenario"

an example:
sally parked her car on a hill without the parking break on.
the car rolls down the hill and htis a traffic poll.
the poll falls over and catches a field on fire.
the field fire goes to a barn.
the barn fire goes to the adjacent house.
the fire kills a farmer in the adjacent house.
should sally get charged with the farmers death?

the answer is no.
therefore, how can we blame trooper A's death on driver B's use of N2O?
the trooper didnt HAVE to pursue. Driver A didnt drive the troopers car into a tree. etc. etc. etc.

i feel this is a little far reaching, but the effecs will be minimul, as most people will shrug and un-plug their tanks.

I ain't a lawyer but I watch alot of judge judy, and I am pretty sure that unless the brake failed or something, she caused the accident and she caused the death.....

thats a scenario out of my buisiness law book i thought the exact same thing, and i still agree with you. but thats not the law.

its been outlawed in oregon for awhile, i've seen people hide there installs pretty damn well to avoid any trouble.

fake sub box in the trunk with a bottle in it, hallowed out rear seats with bottle under it and so on.

just remember its not illegal to have the stuff in your car, its illegal to use it or have intent to use it.

one of the mustang magazines did a nitrous-hide-build. it was on a 302 and they hid it in the door. maybe someone remembers this and the year/month of the magazine?

 

[FullThrottleStangs]

i read the second article and they made it sound like it was the guys fault for making the police officer crash and die. did he hit him with his car or something? sure the guy in the trans am was being a dumbass for running, but he wasnt directly at fault for the officers death IMO.

"Senate Bill 2596 was introduced in response to a high-speed chase last May involving a vehicle with nitrous oxide, which resulted in Trooper Steve Hood's death. Hood, of the Tupelo area, was the first Mississippi state trooper to die in the line of duty in more than a decade."

 

[RockstarMentality]

I cant think of one legitimate reason why nitrous should be legal on public roads anywhere.

I don't see what the difference is between nitrous and any other power adder in terms of safety.

i completely agree you shouldnt be using nitrous on public roads, but just cuz u shouldnt do something doesnt mean it should be illegal. you shouldnt drive around with your middle finger out the window either, but does that mean it should be illegal?

 

[ARdoller]

I cant think of one legitimate reason why nitrous should be legal on public roads anywhere.

I don't see what the difference is between nitrous and any other power adder in terms of safety.

it's not the same. 1, you have a highly combustible tank of nitrous oxide in your car. second, superchragers and turbochargers are an engine-controlled device. the only control you have over it while driving the car is the pedal under your foot. Nitrous Oxide is a user-controlled form of boost, and implies the use of judgment when applying it. I'm not saying you don't need judgment when driving any other boosted car, but there's definitely a big difference between feeling a turbo or supercharger spool up, and instantly injecting a 75-150 shot of nitrous into your motor.

 

[MustangChris]

I cant think of one legitimate reason why nitrous should be legal on public roads anywhere.

I don't see what the difference is between nitrous and any other power adder in terms of safety.

it's not the same. 1, you have a highly combustible tank of nitrous oxide in your car. second, superchragers and turbochargers are an engine-controlled device. the only control you have over it while driving the car is the pedal under your foot. Nitrous Oxide is a user-controlled form of boost, and implies the use of judgment when applying it. I'm not saying you don't need judgment when driving any other boosted car, but there's definitely a big difference between feeling a turbo or supercharger spool up, and instantly injecting a 75-150 shot of nitrous into your motor.

consiering i see retards reading while driving on the highway with their kid in the back seat (LA, California) men shaving (DTC, denver) and people texting all over the place... i think the .0001% of the population with N2O is the least of our problems.

 

[SRT Handz]

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