oh lawd

98GTnSC · Nov 12, 2009

Fiberglass isnt gonna hold it 2gether or supoort it @ all. fiberglass is just gonna lay over the crack

El_Diablo · Nov 12, 2009

something is not right with your car, time to have it put on a frame machine and measured before you permanently weld a defect into your car

CC'S95GT · Nov 12, 2009

I do agree you need to make sure the frame is straight.

nrk · Nov 12, 2009

Welded, fiberglassed over.

Might not be the smartest decision on my part, but it's the best I can do and I really don't think it would be worth it to invest too much into it. 180K and ticking, the car has seen better days. The neglection from the previous owner probably doesn't help.

I'm probably gonna look into trading it in to a dealer after I finish a few more things up on the car.

El_Diablo · Nov 12, 2009

why did you fiberglass over the welds?

MustangChris · Nov 12, 2009

DropTopPony · Nov 13, 2009

Probably not due to the drivers weight but more likely an idiot jacking it up in the wrong spot.

El_Diablo · Nov 13, 2009

i would agree but it could also be more serious than that

nrk · Nov 14, 2009

DESERTCOX05 said:
I do agree you need to make sure the frame is straight.

My dad's friend owns a body shop, so i"ll see into getting it on the rack to be checked out. It's never driven weird, pulled any which way awkwardly etc. though.

El_Diablo said:
why did you fiberglass over the welds?

We could only pretty much spot weld it in a few places, so I figured the mat would be added insurance. It's back to sitting where it should be, and when I have time off next week I'm definitely gonna see if it can hold my weight & more, but it seemed pretty damn sturdy compared to before.

DropTopPony said:
Probably not due to the drivers weight but more likely an idiot jacking it up in the wrong spot.

I would not doubt this... the prev. owner was a moron and it keeps becoming more apparent over time.

I do know that the driver seat was broken when I got the car, that back tab of the seat rail had snapped off so the seat was just laying on the floor about where this crack was. Over time it could have caused some damage.

El_Diablo · Nov 14, 2009

wait.......... your dad owns a body shop and he recommended glass? remind me to stay away....... fiberglass over top of steel in that situation is not structural and i would run if i ever saw that which the next buyer most likely will not

not trying to be an ass but this isnt the 70's, body shops know better now...

97blackout · Nov 14, 2009

His dad's freind, but still not a good idea...

MustangChris · Nov 15, 2009

why is it a bad idea? i would think the welds would be the strength and the glass would just be filler/smoother/sealer.

El_Diablo · Nov 16, 2009

first reason.... it wasnt completely patched so basically your glassing as a barrier which is not a good idea, with the incomplete weld it will promote future cracking which will allow water to get in and trapped between the glass which will make the rate of deterioration even worse as rust aids to weakening the metal

MustangChris · Nov 16, 2009

it wouldnt seal it at all? (not ... being an e-pr!ck, im really asking because i dono... lol)

Mr.Bolt-on · Nov 18, 2009

Yes, fiberglass will absolutely seal the unwelded areas. The only problem is that with a unibody car, the floorpan is a very important part of the chassis. If the welded spot was completely welded, you can put fiberglass over it to strengthen it, but I find this unnecessary.

Fiberglass can seal metal, to the point that it will prevent further rusting, but only for a limited amount of time.

The correct way to fix the floorpan is weld it, brace it, and then spray it with an anti-rust primer/paint, or etching primer. Fiberglassing it is kind of weird.

CC'S95GT · Nov 18, 2009

and why fiberglass the area if it's going to be covered with carpet anyway?

MustangChris · Nov 18, 2009

Mr.Bolt-on said:
Yes, fiberglass will absolutely seal the unwelded areas. The only problem is that with a unibody car, the floorpan is a very important part of the chassis. If the welded spot was completely welded, you can put fiberglass over it to strengthen it, but I find this unnecessary.

Fiberglass can seal metal, to the point that it will prevent further rusting, but only for a limited amount of time.

The correct way to fix the floorpan is weld it, brace it, and then spray it with an anti-rust primer/paint, or etching primer. Fiberglassing it is kind of weird.

gotcha. thanks for the heads up.

El_Diablo · Nov 18, 2009

MustangChris said:
it wouldnt seal it at all? (not ... being an e-pr!ck, im really asking because i dono... lol)

chris, it will seal it but from the sound of it he did this "repair" from the top only, this will allow moisture to get in between the metal and the glass creating further rust, also, even if he did it from both sides the chassis flex on an sn95 would quickly crack the glass, again, allowing moisture in and if he ever decides to drive it in the snow/winter it could quickly deteriorate the "repair"