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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steven" data-source="post: 411835" data-attributes="member: 9605">The issue being here steve, is that as time goes on, common terms, names, ideals, etc all change, and so does the car community. The introduction of a 'shorty' style header is just part of it, and far from it is the idea that its not performance oriented, however I do understand that it is by no means a longtube in performance gains. That is how it was back in the day, if you didnt run longtubes you ran stock manifolds, but in this day and age there are other ways to do things, so just because of past nicknames and common terms of parts from back in the day, that doesn't justifiably say that tubular exhaust manifolds is therefore the correct term for the day and age. It's all taken with a grain of salt, but headers and longtubes and shortys are all coined terms and ideas made up by the enthusiasts, so by no means are shortys an incorrect term today.</blockquote>