What Engine Block????

[MuscleMustang95]

Hello. I was just trying to find out if someone can help on finding what block would work best for my set up with out breaking the bank to much. Im going to stroke to a 331 and I will have the HP Performance stage 1 turbo kit on it with AFR heads and a custom cam with Edelbrock Intake etc... I was looking at the new boss 302 since its only 1600 bucks but any help would be great, Also im planning on anyware between 500 and 600 horsepower.

 

[quickstang_1994]

you should make more power than that and I would use dart, dont go cheap now. lol

 

[Paul]

Why would you choose the Dart over the Boss? Both will sustain more power than he'll ever make and the Boss is cheaper.

Paul.

 

[quickstang_1994]

How much power can they hold?

 

[Paul]

>1000

 

[quickstang_1994]

maybe I will be getting a new block here soon then

 

[Paul]

The Boss block has a host of really nice features. (e.g. thread-in freeze plugs, etc...)


When I get a raceblock, it will be a Dart only because they don't make a Boss 351W. Plus, I want to use the new Dart heads with the extra head bolts.

 

[Mr. OAM]

You can go up to 363 cu. in. in displacement with the new Boss 302 block.

http://media.ford.com/newsroom/release_display.cfm?release=24698


Also, is the cooling system in the Dart block made to handle regular street duties?


Steve

 

[MuscleMustang95]

The reason Im curious is because someone told me that the Boss Block was only made for road racing, but I want it to be able to handle being driven on the street and racing down the strip.

 

[quickstang_1994]

road racing is the hardest on a motor

 

[95CALI-5.0]

I would get the BOSS block. I will be getting a new block as well in the future and will be getting a BOSS.

 

[Mr. OAM]

When Ford was running low on factory 5.0 blocks they knew that people were building them for a lot more power than had ever been intended as technology had surpassed the block. So rather than getting the the old tooling, if they even have it, it was decided to come out with a redesigned block that could carry on the 5.0 legacy yet be able to take the performance that people were building them too now.

It's designed with street use in mind and has the cooling capability for it, among race inspired atributes as well. I think it is a great block.


Steve

 

[MuscleMustang95]

thanks for your help guys i appreciate it

 

[red89yj]

check out the new blocks from my company www.worldcastings.com or www.theengineshop.com

many say that our blocks are better than the boss block and we also just developed an aluminum block. the block is called man o war

im one of the builders/machinists and i can tell you- the power that these things hold when we do our dyno testing in our shop is insane

we also have a clearance spot where you can get a new, prepped block that normally costs 2300-2400 for under $1200
http://www.theengineshop.com/clearance/clearance_blocks.pdf

 

[GaryG]

if i got another 5.0 mustang, id get the BOSS or DART block

 

[MuscleMustang95]

Thanks dude i will have to call them. can you recommend any particular person I should talk to about the blocks?

 

[red89yj]

all of the guys in sales are more than helpful and they can tell you anything you need to know and help you with your decision. they'll explain the design of the block and everything so you can see why so many people feel that it's superior to those offered by other companies.

 

[Paul]

all of the guys in sales are more than helpful and they can tell you anything you need to know and help you with your decision. they'll explain the design of the block and everything so you can see why so many people feel that it's superior to those offered by other companies.

Do you work for World Products or TheEngineShop?

Do they ever have sales on the World 351W blocks? I've been wanting to build a 445ci windsor stroker since the new World blocks came out, but the price of the block is really a limiting factor.

Paul.

 

[scott5]

i am actually oredering my BOSS block next week

 

[red89yj]

all of the guys in sales are more than helpful and they can tell you anything you need to know and help you with your decision. they'll explain the design of the block and everything so you can see why so many people feel that it's superior to those offered by other companies.

Do you work for World Products or TheEngineShop?

Do they ever have sales on the World 351W blocks? I've been wanting to build a 445ci windsor stroker since the new World blocks came out, but the price of the block is really a limiting factor.

Paul.

Both companies are the same- it says world products on my checks, but the engine shop is more of our "store front" if you will-

The man-o-war blocks come in 3 deck heights- the taller deck height is what we use for the 351-w type builds. the highest C.I. ford crate motor we currently offer is 460 so yes, we have a block that is able to suit your build;

this is what an exerpt on our site says "The block is available in three deck heights, which enables the 8.2 blocks to be used in 302 style applications (Mustangs, etc.) while the taller 9.2 and 9.5 blocks are replacements for the 351 style engines used in Ford cars & trucks. The 8.2 deck "C" blocks have 351 distributor and oil pump location, so you can have clearance for longer stroke cranks. This easily permits strokes greater than 3.47". The 9.5 deck blocks have room for 4.25 " strokes and 460 cubic inches!"

in reality, you can bore out to 4.200 and use a max stroke crank to get 470 CI

and the nice thing is that all of manowar the blocks are 4 bolt mains on all 5 caps.

we have a 9.5 deck with a bore 4.169 (oversize for our applications which have a max bore of 4.125) that is on clearance. originally it was $2370, but now its $1185.

I dont know much about it as i dont handle sales, but what im telling you is from the websites. if you wanna call to find out more, call 631-737-0372 and ask for sales. tell them you're interested in the blocks on clearance from the engineshop website- find out if you can acheive your 445 or higher with the 8.2 deck blocks so you dont have to deal with the 351-swap annoyances of having a taller deck. that 9.5 deck is pretty oversized as far as the bore is concerned and I think it will require machining to get it to work with available pistons.