trippieTim
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SO its time to stop buying pullout junkyard 4.6's from wrecked lincoln town cars.
The backstory:
I picked up a 2008 4.6L 2v outa a Lincolns town car that some poor grandma put into a telephone pole or possibly a person. A crisp and clean 56k miles granny driven. I thought my reliability issues were solved. I slapped my stock GT intake manifold on, upgraded to 3" pacesetter long tubes, tossed it in mated to a stock T45 glass box with 145k miles, got a SCT bama tune for 93, and daily drove the car for about 2 months. Its developed a ticking/tap and I found some lovely forbidden silver sprinkles in my oil filter last week doing my standard 3k miles oil change. Im assuming it something with the valvetrain as its revving out higher than any town car ever would. Regardless. Valve covers will be coming off this weekend to see whats up with this one. Not many saw it but I have a thread on moddedmustangs for a engine build. Ive been putting money aside as a broke 21 year old with a dream to build something the ladies will love. I have a been through 3 engines now with this car. original motor 156k, i dropped a valve by money shifting it, 2nd one I shredded a rod bearing due to low oil because it burned oil and was sold a scam motor with 86k miles and toasted piston rings( honestly i had too many rev limiter donuts and took it to a drift event), and now we have the granny motor with 56k, that lasted me 2 months with regular driving and no abuse because i got tired of it breaking. WITH THAT being said so everyone has some backstory. I'm on my last rope of hope at the moment for this thing.
The plan A:
I have the bad rod bearing engine still. I have the crank from the original motor that dropped the valve (8 bolt due to it being a windsor).
Its time to stop spending $600 on junk yard motors and do it the right way.
The plan original plan was to use gen 2 Coyote/boss rods with stock bore forged pistons (retaining stock compression), use my old 8 bolt Windsor crank(still mint condition no scoring), and find a cobra oil pump, Fresh timing set, and send it.
I'm not sure what camshaft setup I plan on going with, I need to figure out what the best setup would be for the car. I plan on adding forced induction in the far future but don't wanna lose power/drivability while its still NA.
I'm definitely upgrading to comp cams beehive springs with upgraded retainers. May need adjustable cam gears but I don't know anything about timing components/Engines in general.
Plan B:
IF I decide to use coyote rods with this stock crank, Im ASSUMING (please let me know if this is true) Im going to need to have the rotating assembly balanced. My area in Florida does not have locally available machine shops or anyone that does this kind of work.
Plan on this one would be to find the cheapest but best reviewed rods i can find for around $800, forged pistons, cobra oil pump, Fresh timing set, and send it.
Stock Coyote rods are $480 for a set of 8, now that sounds like a better deal. I also work for ford and could get a Parts discount.I just dont know if they will hold up if i end up pushing it past 600 HP, into like the 800s. I want to only do this once.
The end goal is still to turbo the car and make 600HP reliably
Not sure what to do yet. Open to suggestions as to which rods to go with on a budget, and which cams for this kind of setup.
The backstory:
I picked up a 2008 4.6L 2v outa a Lincolns town car that some poor grandma put into a telephone pole or possibly a person. A crisp and clean 56k miles granny driven. I thought my reliability issues were solved. I slapped my stock GT intake manifold on, upgraded to 3" pacesetter long tubes, tossed it in mated to a stock T45 glass box with 145k miles, got a SCT bama tune for 93, and daily drove the car for about 2 months. Its developed a ticking/tap and I found some lovely forbidden silver sprinkles in my oil filter last week doing my standard 3k miles oil change. Im assuming it something with the valvetrain as its revving out higher than any town car ever would. Regardless. Valve covers will be coming off this weekend to see whats up with this one. Not many saw it but I have a thread on moddedmustangs for a engine build. Ive been putting money aside as a broke 21 year old with a dream to build something the ladies will love. I have a been through 3 engines now with this car. original motor 156k, i dropped a valve by money shifting it, 2nd one I shredded a rod bearing due to low oil because it burned oil and was sold a scam motor with 86k miles and toasted piston rings( honestly i had too many rev limiter donuts and took it to a drift event), and now we have the granny motor with 56k, that lasted me 2 months with regular driving and no abuse because i got tired of it breaking. WITH THAT being said so everyone has some backstory. I'm on my last rope of hope at the moment for this thing.
The plan A:
I have the bad rod bearing engine still. I have the crank from the original motor that dropped the valve (8 bolt due to it being a windsor).
Its time to stop spending $600 on junk yard motors and do it the right way.
The plan original plan was to use gen 2 Coyote/boss rods with stock bore forged pistons (retaining stock compression), use my old 8 bolt Windsor crank(still mint condition no scoring), and find a cobra oil pump, Fresh timing set, and send it.
I'm not sure what camshaft setup I plan on going with, I need to figure out what the best setup would be for the car. I plan on adding forced induction in the far future but don't wanna lose power/drivability while its still NA.
I'm definitely upgrading to comp cams beehive springs with upgraded retainers. May need adjustable cam gears but I don't know anything about timing components/Engines in general.
Plan B:
IF I decide to use coyote rods with this stock crank, Im ASSUMING (please let me know if this is true) Im going to need to have the rotating assembly balanced. My area in Florida does not have locally available machine shops or anyone that does this kind of work.
Plan on this one would be to find the cheapest but best reviewed rods i can find for around $800, forged pistons, cobra oil pump, Fresh timing set, and send it.
Stock Coyote rods are $480 for a set of 8, now that sounds like a better deal. I also work for ford and could get a Parts discount.I just dont know if they will hold up if i end up pushing it past 600 HP, into like the 800s. I want to only do this once.
The end goal is still to turbo the car and make 600HP reliably
Not sure what to do yet. Open to suggestions as to which rods to go with on a budget, and which cams for this kind of setup.