adjustable cam gears?

[Millzenator]

Hello all.. Been quite some time since I've posted. I am using the older pin-style modcamponents. However, it looks like there is a new revised set out. Not sure how they work, but here's a link: http://www.blueovalcamponents.com/timinggear.html

 

[Pennywise2]

Stay away from Fidanza. They come apart, on everyone. Stick to a good quality set

Avoid the Fidanza adjustable cam gears like the plauge.
There are alot of another choices out there.

 

[MustangChris]

maybe the comp cam set up would be higher quality?

 

[95PGTTech]

Other than the one website basically dedicated to destroying Fidanza, I haven't seen a failure from that company. Anyone else have any links, or just a lot of internet hearsay?

 

[DropTopPony]

Have you searched or are you just going by the time you spend online casually browsing.
By doing a 5 second search i found Fidanza Cam Gear failures on multiple forums ranging from Ford to SRT4's to MX5's etc.

Seeing one failure and the company refusing to take blame should be enough for anyone to not use them. Seeing them revise the product they said had nothing wrong with it and still not taking responsibility guarantees i'd never have any of their products.

 

[97stanger]

yeah im definately going with the Comp adjustable cam gears. I have to pull my motor this week because I just physically cant get to the back valve to change the springs/retainers. while the motor is out im working my non pi heads as well.

 

[DropTopPony]

The Comp are Fidanza with the name changed.

The new revised version looks better but i wouldn't trust them in my new engine.

 

[lordgufi]

people with dead fidanza's are going back to OEM gears and grinding the keyway.

IMO... grind the keyway and bolt it back down. DONE

 

[NERD]

well my numbers will be a huge jump. I already took the car off insurance and ripped off the supercharger/piping/valve covers. This is what will happen over the winter before next spring:
Crower stage 2 non pi blower cams
high lift valve springs/steel retainers
adjustable cam gears
battery relocation
snow performance stage 2 boost cooler
big/skinnies
retune

I am hoping to be in the 475rwhp range through my built auto, 3500 stall, 4.10s

I was were you're at.... Good luck and congrats!

 

[MustangChris]

people with dead fidanza's are going back to OEM gears and grinding the keyway.

IMO... grind the keyway and bolt it back down. DONE

explain please.. i dont understand. this sounds risky to me, but im not a professiponal by any means.

 

[95PGTTech]

Have you searched or are you just going by the time you spend online casually browsing.
By doing a 5 second search i found Fidanza Cam Gear failures on multiple forums ranging from Ford to SRT4's to MX5's etc.

Seeing one failure and the company refusing to take blame should be enough for anyone to not use them. Seeing them revise the product they said had nothing wrong with it and still not taking responsibility guarantees i'd never have any of their products.

it was a serious question, I only have seen that one failure. it seems on the internet, one person has a bad experience with a product, usually the installer error, and it gets blown up into "brand x sucks". what makes you think comp cam gears are fidanza units?

 

[DropTopPony]

people with dead fidanza's are going back to OEM gears and grinding the keyway.

IMO... grind the keyway and bolt it back down. DONE

explain please.. i dont understand. this sounds risky to me, but im not a professiponal by any means.

Thats how most shops have been doing it since day 1 on these engines. The cam bolt is what holds the load pressure so grinding the keyway to adjust the cam gear is not a negative. So you get the quality of oem without the risk of secondary bolts slipping or breaking throwing out your timing and causing ptv.

Ford actually had a nice set of 4.6 2V adj cam gears but they were not available for long and good luck finding a set.

 

[DropTopPony]

^^^^ Fidanza^^^^

VVVV Comp VVVV

 

[MustangChris]

people with dead fidanza's are going back to OEM gears and grinding the keyway.

IMO... grind the keyway and bolt it back down. DONE

explain please.. i dont understand. this sounds risky to me, but im not a professiponal by any means.

Thats how most shops have been doing it since day 1 on these engines. The cam bolt is what holds the load pressure so grinding the keyway to adjust the cam gear is not a negative. So you get the quality of oem without the risk of secondary bolts slipping or breaking throwing out your timing and causing ptv.

Ford actually had a nice set of 4.6 2V adj cam gears but they were not available for long and good luck finding a set.

i would think that the keyway was put there for a reason.... im not an expert, but this sounds risky.... :-( lol.

If ford's design was so amazing and this modification is "nearly" bullet-proof, why did ford stop production?

 

[MustangChris]

^^^^ Fidanza^^^^

VVVV Comp VVVV

im not disagreeing with you, but i wouldnt judge a book by its cover...

how manyother ways can you make a cam sproket???? just because they appear simular, they may be made out of different material, have different bolts, have more threads, have diamond-coated-platinum-enriched-v-tak actributes that only a ultra-violet light can detect...

 

[DropTopPony]

people with dead fidanza's are going back to OEM gears and grinding the keyway.

IMO... grind the keyway and bolt it back down. DONE

explain please.. i dont understand. this sounds risky to me, but im not a professiponal by any means.

Thats how most shops have been doing it since day 1 on these engines. The cam bolt is what holds the load pressure so grinding the keyway to adjust the cam gear is not a negative. So you get the quality of oem without the risk of secondary bolts slipping or breaking throwing out your timing and causing ptv.

Ford actually had a nice set of 4.6 2V adj cam gears but they were not available for long and good luck finding a set.

i would think that the keyway was put there for a reason.... im not an expert, but this sounds risky.... :-( lol.

If ford's design was so amazing and this modification is "nearly" bullet-proof, why did ford stop production?

The keyway was put there to help line things up for the assembly line.

stop production of what and wtf is bullet proof? you lost me?

 

[DropTopPony]

^^^^ Fidanza^^^^

VVVV Comp VVVV

im not disagreeing with you, but i wouldnt judge a book by its cover...

how manyother ways can you make a cam sproket???? just because they appear simular, they may be made out of different material, have different bolts, have more threads, have diamond-coated-platinum-enriched-v-tak actributes that only a ultra-violet light can detect...

They were released @ the same time so its just a coincidence that they happened to have the same exact design.....

How many battery manufacturers are there in the US? maybe 4.... how many companies sell batteries with their own names on them? more than 4..... get it.? Thats how auto parts manufacturing works.

 

[MustangChris]

people with dead fidanza's are going back to OEM gears and grinding the keyway.

IMO... grind the keyway and bolt it back down. DONE

explain please.. i dont understand. this sounds risky to me, but im not a professiponal by any means.

Thats how most shops have been doing it since day 1 on these engines. The cam bolt is what holds the load pressure so grinding the keyway to adjust the cam gear is not a negative. So you get the quality of oem without the risk of secondary bolts slipping or breaking throwing out your timing and causing ptv.

Ford actually had a nice set of 4.6 2V adj cam gears but they were not available for long and good luck finding a set.

i would think that the keyway was put there for a reason.... im not an expert, but this sounds risky.... :-( lol.

If ford's design was so amazing and this modification is "nearly" bullet-proof, why did ford stop production?

The keyway was put there to help line things up for the assembly line.

stop production of what and wtf is bullet proof? you lost me?

well i didnt know what the keyway was for on the cam sproket... thats why i was asking questions....
and I was saying if Ford's aftermarket design was so reliable (opposed to the comp/fidanza design) why are they no longer available?

^^^^ Fidanza^^^^

VVVV Comp VVVV

im not disagreeing with you, but i wouldnt judge a book by its cover...

how manyother ways can you make a cam sproket???? just because they appear simular, they may be made out of different material, have different bolts, have more threads, have diamond-coated-platinum-enriched-v-tak actributes that only a ultra-violet light can detect...

They were released @ the same time so its just a coincidence that they happened to have the same exact design.....

How many battery manufacturers are there in the US? maybe 4.... how many companies sell batteries with their own names on them? more than 4..... get it.? Thats how auto parts manufacturing works.

I understand, and its the same way with oil filters... and im not trying to ruffle your feathers amigo, im just trying to help... the OP was looking for a quality product, and i just didnt want Comp's product (who i feel has a pretty high reputation) to get nudged to the side without somekind of reason. Although I am no longer looking into building a 2v, finding a quality 2v timing gear could help next time im under the hood on a buddy's mustang...

 

[DropTopPony]

From what i was told by Randy S Ford only made a limited amount of adjustable cam gears for racing teams etc and he was someone that had a set and told me they were good.

 

[MustangChris]

From what i was told by Randy S Ford only made a limited amount of adjustable cam gears for racing teams etc and he was someone that had a set and told me they were good.

ohhhh. i thought they were offered to the general public, like their headers and valve covers and junk...

if they were sold to racing teams, im sure they were pretty high quality...