After i do my PI cam and intake swap

[sn97gtnyg]

will i need a tune to see all of my gains and if i cant afford a tuner right now should i post-pone my swap til i get a tuner?

 

[98_MustangGT]

good question. i was wondering the same thing.

 

[Black97GT]

You will be able to run on the stock tune. You would see more gains from getting a tuner though.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

With PI cams and a PI intake, you are stil within the stock parameter's of the ECu to be able to adjust to. Go with aftermarket "Stage II's" though, and it won't like it much at all.

 

[jfor441]

With PI cams and a PI intake, you are stil within the stock parameter's of the ECu to be able to adjust to. Go with aftermarket "Stage II's" though, and it won't like it much at all.

It is gonna be real interesting when I get my stage 3 port and polish heads and Comp XE274H cams on my car and drive to the tuner LMAO.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

With PI cams and a PI intake, you are stil within the stock parameter's of the ECu to be able to adjust to. Go with aftermarket "Stage II's" though, and it won't like it much at all.

It is gonna be real interesting when I get my stage 3 port and polish heads and Comp XE274H cams on my car and drive to the tuner LMAO.

If you have an Xcal, just bump the idle, otherwise keep your foot on the gas and keep the rev's up

 

[jfor441]

With PI cams and a PI intake, you are stil within the stock parameter's of the ECu to be able to adjust to. Go with aftermarket "Stage II's" though, and it won't like it much at all.

It is gonna be real interesting when I get my stage 3 port and polish heads and Comp XE274H cams on my car and drive to the tuner LMAO.

If you have an Xcal, just bump the idle, otherwise keep your foot on the gas and keep the rev's up

I will be getting the tuner and everything when I go for the dynotune. Good thing it is a 5 speed right now.

 

[LI98GT]

Going on a few years now with the PI cams/intake swap and haven't "needed" a tune in that time. Idles and runs strong as is with stock timing and air/fuel controled by the stock tune. Don't know what I'm missing at this point, so I can't quantify what "all of my gains" exactly is for me, but had the local mustang shop told me at the time of my last dyno that i could see 10rwhp fairly easily, but it's under the curve that really counts.

I did recently purchase a used xcal2, but haven't been able to figure out how to increase the base timing so far.

 

[justinschmidt1]

Not needed, but I would get a 93 octane tune anyway, might as well get it tuned right while your at it.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Going on a few years now with the PI cams/intake swap and haven't "needed" a tune in that time. Idles and runs strong as is with stock timing and air/fuel controled by the stock tune. Don't know what I'm missing at this point, so I can't quantify what "all of my gains" exactly is for me, but had the local mustang shop told me at the time of my last dyno that i could see 10rwhp fairly easily, but it's under the curve that really counts.

I did recently purchase a used xcal2, but haven't been able to figure out how to increase the base timing so far.

I don't think you can do global timing on 96-98's, I remember being able to do it at 0-2k2-4k, and 4-6k

 

[justinschmidt1]

yea, something like that.

Mine was advanced differant degrees from 0-2 2-4 4-6

 

[voidfinger]

that sucks... so the only way to do global timing if i'm thinking of it right is like a timeing adjuster by steeda or mac?

 

[LI98GT]

that sucks... so the only way to do global timing if i'm thinking of it right is like a timeing adjuster by steeda or mac?

Not really suckage as you could (if you really wanted) just make the timing advanced for those three sections all the same to minic a "global" timing advance. I believe that reason you have those levels is that you can dial in the right amount of timing in the different rpm ranges to maximize power in each section.

 

[voidfinger]

o thats right b/c at lower rpm advanced timing makes more tq and at higher rpms you retard timing to make more hp i got ya