AODE Shift Improver Question

[95gt_stang]

Alright, i got a 95 GT with the AODE and just recently had it rebuilt and its supposedly has a shift kit in it, but i cant really feel it. So has anyone ever used this one?http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BMM-70381/?image=large
And if so, have you ever had any problems with it? Thanks ahead for any input on this.

 

[94 DropTop]

If you want to feel it have a real kit put in or jmod your valve body. I Have a jmod valve body and it shift extremely hard.

 

[sbr420a]

take it out and leave it out. my car shifts so much better when its not in there

 

[LAFENATU]

Karl Baumann...best shift kit on the market, hands down.

www.becontrols.com



Karl Baumann ReCal Pro AOD-E/4R70W Valve Body Recalibration Kit

This easy to install kit builds upon the development experience gained with our AOD and E4OD products. Highly advanced features of this system include five user-selectable (during installation) levels of shift firmness for the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts as well as a special overdrive shift calibration which alleviates the characteristic and detrimental 3-4 synchronous bind found in this transmission.

Our new Torque-Compensation feature is an industry exclusive which allows the transmission hydraulics to be tuned to the engine's torque characteristics, thus providing maximum durability and proper shift feel independent of the shift firmness setting.[/red] With our advanced shift firmness selection and exclusive torque compensation it is now possible to properly calibrate the transmission for the increased demands created by supercharging, turbocharging, increased displacement and similar modifications without destroying the transmission's street manners and daily drivability. This design provides the performance tuner with access to most of the variables used by OEM engineers when designing a new powertrain combination.

Information is presented in a simple, concise and complete manner and is geared toward individuals with general mechanical knowledge as well as professional transmission technicians. Transmission removal is not required (as with most valve body kits) and installation takes approximately 3-4 hours. Since this product is fully covered by the Baumann technical support plan, answers are just a phone call away. Complete with detailed and fully illustrated instruction manual as well as all necessary parts[/i].

Catalog Number: RK-AODE for 92-95 AODE/4R70W $99.95



Forget the JMOD in my opinion.

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[Javi]

Karl Baumann...best shift kit on the market, hands down.

Www.becontrols.comhttp://http://http://

Forget the JMOD in my opinion.

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+1

 

[Dalamar]

curious, why forget the J-mod? any reasoning behind that?

 

[98GTnSC]

wuts a J Mod and how do u do it? im supposed 2 have a shift kit in my 98 GT and its AODE but i want it 2 shift firmer

 

[94gtstang50]

I had a transgo in my gt and it shifted great, nice hard 1-2 and it was crisp into every other gear. Far better than the messy stock shifts the aode offers, but there was still a fantastic delay when I manually shifted it; from the time I moved the shifter to when it actually engaged, enough to cause me to hit the limiter and run a 14.5 instead of 14.0-14.3 if not better (4.10's).

 

[LAFENATU]

curious, why forget the J-mod? any reasoning behind that?

Because with a jmod all your basically doing is enlarging a few holes in the seperater plate.

The Baumann kit you get a shim kit and spacers for the accumulators 1-2 with an additional spring, spacers for the 2-3 capacity modulator. 2 springs for the main pressure regulator. The kit comes with all the drill bits to do the work as well.

Quality > *

 

[Dalamar]

I've seen plenty of feedback stating that typical shift kits raise the line pressure causing pressure spikes and this can hurt the valve body and convertor.
On the other hand, the J mod (stand's for Jerry's Mod) is written and tested by a transmission builder, and increases the FLOW, which is better for your transmission than spiking the pressure.

Now I'm not saying the Baumman kit is bad becuase I don't know much about it. but I wouldn't bash the J mod.

U can read up on it here:
http://www.tccoa.com/articles/tranny/#

 

[coats04]

im buying a bone stock 95 tomorrow and plan on spraying a 150 shot.it has the aode in it.

i want hard shifts when your in it hard and nice firm shifts the rest of the time.

also what can be done about the delay between moving the shifter into second and the tranny shifts 1-2 seconds later?that bugs the hell out of me.

 

[LAFENATU]

but I wouldn't bash the J mod.

Who's bashing? I'm not bashing homey...to each his own. I don't like just the jmod kit by itself....I think I came across the wrong way. The jmod kit drills and enlarges the holes in the seperator plate and basically that is it.

There is more in depth work with Karl Baumann (becontrols.com) and his kit. He has years of practice and research on nothing but the 4R100E/E4OD/AOD/AODE/4R70W.

The trans-go and B&M kits actually increase heat which we know is the LAST thing you want for an auto.

The Baumann kits are so radically different then the transgo/B&M etc.

It is basically a jmod with more to it. The Baumann kit comes with all the drill bits to increase the flow like the jmod but it also comes with a shim kit and spacers for the accumulators 1-2 with an additional spring for it. You also get spacers for the 2-3 capacity modulator and 2 springs for the main pressure regulator. Sh1t...they even send you a new factory lower 1-2 Accumulator spring because the stock one goes bad a lot. It also has better line pressure control for the clutches and bands. It also helps the 3-4 synchronous from binding which is REALLY common in AODE's.

The Baumann kit also has a torque compensation lets the hydraulics to be tuned to the engine's torque characteristics.

I guess the best way to explain it, is it is a jmod plus..lol

 

[LAFENATU]

im buying a bone stock 95 tomorrow and plan on spraying a 150 shot.it has the aode in it.

Have fun picking out all the converter pieces inside the bellhousing.

also what can be done about the delay between moving the shifter into second and the tranny shifts 1-2 seconds later?that bugs the hell out of me.

You shouldn't be manually shifting it. Are you looking to fvck it up? The PCM controls the AODE, shifting it while your cruising isn't going to help you in anyway.

 

[coats04]

either way if im manuely shifting it there is still a delay.whats the fix?or is there one?

the camaros dont delay why should my ford?
lol

 

[LAFENATU]

The AODE is not controlled by vacuum and a downshift rod.

The computer controls it so the PCM is delaying the shift for some reason. Why do you want to manually shift it? Why not buy a 5 speed?

 

[Dalamar]

but I wouldn't bash the J mod.

Who's bashing? I'm not bashing homey...to each his own. I don't like just the jmod kit by itself....I think I came across the wrong way. The jmod kit drills and enlarges the holes in the seperator plate and basically that is it.

There is more in depth work with Karl Baumann (becontrols.com) and his kit. He has years of practice and research on nothing but the 4R100E/E4OD/AOD/AODE/4R70W.

The trans-go and B&M kits actually increase heat which we know is the LAST thing you want for an auto.

The Baumann kits are so radically different then the transgo/B&M etc.

It is basically a jmod with more to it. The Baumann kit comes with all the drill bits to increase the flow like the jmod but it also comes with a shim kit and spacers for the accumulators 1-2 with an additional spring for it. You also get spacers for the 2-3 capacity modulator and 2 springs for the main pressure regulator. Sh1t...they even send you a new factory lower 1-2 Accumulator spring because the stock one goes bad a lot. It also has better line pressure control for the clutches and bands. It also helps the 3-4 synchronous from binding which is REALLY common in AODE's.

The Baumann kit also has a torque compensation lets the hydraulics to be tuned to the engine's torque characteristics.

I guess the best way to explain it, is it is a jmod plus..lol

Now that's the kind of information I was asking for!
that sounds like a good kit then!

 

[94gtstang50]

The AODE is not controlled by vacuum and a downshift rod.

The computer controls it so the PCM is delaying the shift for some reason. Why do you want to manually shift it? Why not buy a 5 speed?

I had to manually shift it when I was at the strip because with 4.10's the pcm would bounce the son of a bitch off the redline in every gear thus costing me over a second :angry7: I was going to do a t5 swap but decided against it, probably out of laziness and not wanting to mess around under the dash installing the extra pedal. Luckily a short time later I found my cobra at a great price and I had a new toy to devote my time to.

 

[LAFENATU]

The AODE is not controlled by vacuum and a downshift rod.

The computer controls it so the PCM is delaying the shift for some reason. Why do you want to manually shift it? Why not buy a 5 speed?

I had to manually shift it when I was at the strip because with 4.10's the pcm would bounce the son of a sheep skin off the redline in every gear thus costing me over a second :angry7: I was going to do a t5 swap but decided against it, probably out of laziness and not wanting to mess around under the dash installing the extra pedal. Luckily a short time later I found my cobra at a great price and I had a new toy to devote my time to.

That is why I don't recommend 4.10's for cars that are gonna race in the 1/4. You'll run out of gear.

3.73's >*

 

[FirebirdTN]

I did the Jmod in mine and am extremely happy. I also did some other upgrades/mods to the tranny because I had to rebuild it.

I have no experience with shift kits for this tranny so I can't offer any comparison, but fully happy with the Jmod. I guess I am nervouse about doing anything that would raise line pressure in the tranny. Maybe its nothing to worry about, and its just me. 2 cents.

-Alan

 

[LAFENATU]

My line pressure is 100%