boost or n/a?

[97stanger]

I'm just going by the gains that i saw with some similar mods. I was at 203rwhp n/a with full bolt ons completely non pi. PI manifold added 30rwhp WITH A BLOWER. So say you see what, 15-20? Puts you in the 230-240rwhp range, being generous. So im just asking, you're trying to get 110-120rwhp with cams/heads?

 

[justinschmidt1]

I agree with you blownstanger...theres no way hes gonna hit 350 rwhp n/a without some serious heads, serious cams, and a serious intake...

 

[jfor441]

I'm just going by the gains that i saw with some similar mods. I was at 203rwhp n/a with full bolt ons completely non pi. PI manifold added 20rwhp WITH A BLOWER. So say you see what, 10-15rwhp? Puts you in the 220rwhp range, being generous. So im just asking, you're trying to get 130rwhp with cams/heads?

Cams, heads and the one thing you are overlooking, compression

With my head cam combo, 100 hp gain is easily achieved. You add in compression that is a good 3 points higher than stock and that is gonna be roughly another 30 or so hp. Like I said earlier, my combo is not something that most folks would even consider streetable. It is gonna idle rough, my peak power is going to be around 7500 rpm's.

 

[97stanger]

And by that point you dont have a streetable car. I mean yes it can always be done, but not for a car that you plan on actually driving. So as talked about earlier, why would you want an unreliable car when you can spend the same amount for a blower setup that will get you to point a and b as it would have without the blower and capable of maxing out your stock shortblock?

 

[jfor441]

I agree with you blownstanger...theres no way hes gonna hit 350 rwhp n/a without some serious heads, serious cams, and a serious intake...

I swear... ya'll can't read or something. Where did I say I was going with just plain PI heads and PI cams? The PI intake will work with I am looking to do.

And by that point you dont have a streetable car. I mean yes it can always be done, but not for a car that you plan on actually driving. Or like said earlier in the post, for the same price as a blower setup.

Yes it will be a streetable daily driven car with AC. Your definition of streetable and mine are obviously two different things. :nonono:

 

[97stanger]

Well lets do the most reasonable thing and stop talking about "what you will make" and when the motor is actually done post up. Not doubting you im just saying a 350+rwhp n/a car is not easy to do and drive an hour with no problems.

 

[97stanger]

Just curious, what is your definition of a streetable car?

 

[rick focks]

15+ psi or STFU!!!

 

[jfor441]

Just curious, what is your definition of a streetable car?

car that is legal to drive on the street.

 

[rick focks]

that's different depending on what state...or even municipality in Texas...

 

[jfor441]

that's different depending on what state...or even municipality in Texas...

I live in Alabama. We have zero restrictions or anything like that.

 

[97stanger]

geez in that case i know of some 700+rwhp streetable cars. Whens this motor going to be done?

 

[jfor441]

geez in that case i know of some 700+rwhp streetable cars.

and? Everyone's definition of streetable or not streetable is different. Having a big cam in a car doesn't make it not streetable. My car will still have AC and heat.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I know of some 700 rwhp streetable car's too, they run on pump gas, pass our Echeck, and prowl the streets every Friday and Saturday night.

Nothing really unstreetable about 12.5: C/R, it's just that the 80's brainwashed everyone into thinking anything more than 9:1 was alot.


Most modern performance engines come stock with at least 10.5:1, many are in the 11:1, 11.5:1 range. Knock sensors rule.

 

[97stanger]

Whens this motor going to be finished? and do you plan on running nitrous?

 

[rick focks]

wow...now i want a 500 hp DD fox vert...n/a...
:rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh:

 

[jfor441]

Whens this motor going to be finished? and do you plan on running nitrous?

Waiting on heads at the machine shop. It is race season so I don't know when i will get them back and yes i will be spraying a 200 shot at the track.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I should probably get to work on a good 4r70w core soon :hammer:

 

[97stanger]

lol, is your rear/tranny built yet?

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I called a local guy for a core for him and got pretty discouraged, it turned into a whole thing. Guy runs a salvage yard, don't know what the hell a 4r70w is :wall: