Bought a 95 V6 Mustang

94Snake · May 19, 2016

I bought this 95 V6 Mustang as a cheap drag car build. I'm just curious to know some things because I've never owned one before. I know they come with the smaller 7.5 rearend but what about the transmission, computer, brakes, K-member, and fuel system. This has the AOD in it but is it weaker than a typical V8 AOD? I'm sure the computer could be reused with a chip installed. I'm just being lazy instead of scouring the net, figured that you guys could help! Thanks ahead of time!

Greg

evilcw311 · May 19, 2016

95 came with 8.8 regardless iirc.

Are you trying to build a drag car with the v6?? If not then no you can't use the computer.

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94Snake · May 19, 2016

So you're saying that even though it's a v6 car, it still has an 8.8 rearend? Man, if that's true, that'd be awesome! I plan on scrapping the v6 all together. Looking at a junkyard 302/351 or maybe even trying the junkyard LS with a turbo 350 trans. So the computer won't work with a v8 at all, no matter if there's a chip installed, that sucks. What about the k-member? Will it work with a 302/351? Will the AOD? Thanks for the quick response!

Greg

Orange 94 · May 19, 2016

It'll have the smaller rear end unfortunately.

Kmembers:
94/95 use the same k member regardless if its v6 or v8 pushrod, just need the correct motormount. I know this for sure from the aftermarket side, should be the same for factory.
Modular engines share the same k member. A v6 can use either k member (mod or pushrod) with the correct motormounts.

Computer I believe has to be switched.

Not sure about auto trans. I know T5 had different ratio and I think v8 was stronger.

evilcw311 · May 19, 2016

If the rear is a 7.5 you can get a rear end from the junk yard for cheap and they are plentiful. Explorers, Rangers, and mustangs all had the 8.8 in certain models and they all bolt right up. The explorer/ranger rear end is a tad narrower which is nice if you run wider wheels.

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07GtS197 · May 20, 2016

The brakes are the same as the gt brakes and the 94-95s had aode's not aod's. The bellhousing blt pattern for the 3.8 and 5.0/5.8 is the same but I think its a weaker trans than what the gt's got. The nice thing is that you can build those aode's up to hold a lot of power and you can swap the gears out with one meant for an aod, aode or 4r70w.

On a side note, those 3.8s are known to blow head gaskets so if you keep it theres a possibility itll happen sooner or later, especially if you decide to build and drag the 3.8. Another thing is that theyre not bad boost motors and can make torque numbers if you plan on going that route.

ScottyDsntKnow · May 22, 2016

Break it down to a roller, get an 8.8 rear and then build it back up as a V8 from scratch. Carb will be easiest if its a dedicated drag car. If not... you will need the harness and computer out of a V8.

94Snake · Jun 1, 2016

My game plan was to strip it down to a cheap roller. I'm just trying to figure out what will be salvageable and what will have to be upgraded. Does anybody know what rearends fit under these? I didn't want to play the guessing game of measuring rim backspacing for shorter rearends.

Orange 94 · Jun 2, 2016

I did a fox, have to swap axles though.

How is it a guessing game for wheels though? Use a measuring device and some math.

lutter94 · Jun 2, 2016

It's my understanding that the 3.8 is a 5.0, but with 2 fewer cylinders. 5.0 / 8 x 6 = 3.75. It has the same bellhousing bolt pattern, and a different motor mount, as, the shorter block would need to be accounted for.

The rear end widths are the same from 1986-1998. The 1999-2004 rear ends are 3" wider, 1.5" per side. You can handle the math from there. Keep in mind like Orange said, fox rear ends will have 4 bolt axles in them.

Unless you want a T5 swap, look for a 94/95 AODE from a V8 car. You can swap the ECM, and the engine harness, should fire right up. Might have to do research as I imagine the radiator on a V6 could be smaller? idk something to consider.

A doner car would be your best bet. Unless you're coming to SoDak soon, and buy my AODE that I have sitting on the floor in my shed

. Have the cooler lines too! No ECM though, I tuned my AODE for 5 speed use with a chip.

chris91 · Jun 2, 2016

lutter94 said:
It's my understanding that the 3.8 is a 5.0, but with 2 fewer cylinders. 5.0 / 8 x 6 = 3.75. It has the same bellhousing bolt pattern, and a different motor mount, as, the shorter block would need to be accounted for.

The rear end widths are the same from 1986-1998. The 1999-2004 rear ends are 3" narrower, 1.5" per side. You can handle the math from there. Keep in mind like Orange said, fox rear ends will have 4 bolt axles in them.

Unless you want a T5 swap, look for a 94/95 AODE from a V8 car. You can swap the ECM, and the engine harness, should fire right up. Might have to do research as I imagine the radiator on a V6 could be smaller? idk something to consider.

A doner car would be your best bet. Unless you're coming to SoDak soon, and buy my AODE that I have sitting on the floor in my shed . Have the cooler lines too! No ECM though, I tuned my AODE for 5 speed use with a chip.

Incorrect. The 99-04 rear isn't narrower, it's wider.

lutter94 · Jun 2, 2016

chris91 said:
Incorrect. The 99-04 rear isn't narrower, it's wider.

Oh crap, thanks for the catch. I'll change it.

lutter94 · Jun 3, 2016

Here's a bunch of parts for ya to get started.

http://www.sn95forums.com/showthrea...SRA-Leather-Rear-Seat-Cam-Lifter-Kit-and-More!

evilcw311 · Jun 4, 2016

lutter94 said:
It's my understanding that the 3.8 is a 5.0, but with 2 fewer cylinders. 5.0 / 8 x 6 = 3.75.

Also, 302's are not really 5.0's. They are 4.9 but ford decided that 5.0 looked better and would better attract sales.

It's amazing how most people really don't know this tho.............

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07GtS197 · Jun 4, 2016

lutter94 said:
It's my understanding that the 3.8 is a 5.0, but with 2 fewer cylinders. 5.0 / 8 x 6 = 3.75. It has the same bellhousing bolt pattern, and a different motor mount, as, the shorter block would need to be accounted for.

The rear end widths are the same from 1986-1998. The 1999-2004 rear ends are 3" wider, 1.5" per side. You can handle the math from there. Keep in mind like Orange said, fox rear ends will have 4 bolt axles in them.

Unless you want a T5 swap, look for a 94/95 AODE from a V8 car. You can swap the ECM, and the engine harness, should fire right up. Might have to do research as I imagine the radiator on a V6 could be smaller? idk something to consider.

A doner car would be your best bet. Unless you're coming to SoDak soon, and buy my AODE that I have sitting on the floor in my shed . Have the cooler lines too! No ECM though, I tuned my AODE for 5 speed use with a chip.

Good info but Id like to point out the 3.8 is not a 5.0 minus 2 cylinders. I belive the v6 in the chevy camaro is a 350 minus 2 cylinders. A 3.8 has a 3.810" bore and 3.390" stroke and the 302 has a 4" bore and 3" stroke. They are similar in the fact they are both pushrod motors and share similar accessory drives and bellhousing bolt pattern. Its actually a reverse engineered buick 3.8 v6.

evilcw311 · Jun 4, 2016

The 4.3 liter vortech motor was the 350 minus 2 cylinders. It was found in blazers and s10's. The camaro had a 3.8 liter up until 2005.

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lutter94 · Jun 5, 2016

evilcw311 said:
Also, 302's are not really 5.0's. They are 4.9 but ford decided that 5.0 looked better and would better attract sales.

It's amazing how most people really don't know this tho.............

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Right, Chevy 305 is a 5.0. Hard for Ford to have a 4.9 Inline 6 (300 cid), and a 4.9 V8 (302 cid) at the same time lol.