brake upgrades and ABS

voidfinger

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Dalamar said:
Yep, I have Eibach front and rear, will be replacing. :crazy2:

If you let them go for pretty cheap, let me know. I was looking into getting the eibach sways to go along with my prokits and KYB's and poly bushings lol.
 

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SRT Handz said:
Conechaser said:
I know that. You know that. Unfortunately, 99 percent of the driving public don't know that.

Actually, you can brake in a turn... it's called trail braking. Works well for helping the car to rotate in a corner. Doesn't work very well if you have ABS in a FWD car though.

Many Instructors will say "DO NOT TAILBRAKE" or "NO BRAKING IN THE TURN". I agree with the 100% Braking in the turn throws the car completely out of balance. If you are in a RWD car and having problems with understeer in a Turn, you should be using the Throttle to Counter the Understeer. Braking in understeer will just make the Understeer worse.

Now, with a FWD car, there is a technique called "Left Foot Braking" which is VERY difficult to master but a FWD specialist can use left foot braking in a corner to Created more grip in the turn.... its way to fight the understeer.

You are correct to a point... if you are understeering in a turn... you either have too much speed or too much steering angle. If you are already sliding the front of the car toward the outside of the turn under braking... more brakes won't help. You need to find a way to let the front tires do their thing and find some lateral grip. Either open up the hands and decrease the steering angle and/or release the brake pressure slightly to let the tires roll again. Probably both!

I left foot brake all the time when I am on the track or chasing cones. Though, I think you are trying to describe trail braking... staying lightly on the brake as the car heads towards the apex of the turn while you are applying the throttle. As the throttle goes down, the brake pedal comes up. The problem with a FWD car with ABS is that when it is turning, the rear gets real light and the computer senses the rears are about to lock up. What does it do?? It reduces braking pressure to the front wheels and you understeer towards the outside of the turn. Neither of my FWD cars have ABS and I like it that way.

As an on track driving instructor... I constantly tell my students to brake straight, off the brake/turn the car, squeeze the throttle, unwind the hands to let the car track out freely to the edge of the track.
 

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