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He corner-balanced my car when I went full coilover. I'll probably go back when I'll do some weight reduction. As for the alignment, I believe that if you don't get alignment done after installing, then don't bother wasting money on CC plates in the first place. You are probably better off leaving stuff as is.

but my tires dont wear right because of not having CC plates
 

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Is setting up a bump steer kit precisely that important?

I mean I cant imagine its any worse than stock when you slam your car on its face and your tie rods are at a 45 degree angle to the a arms haha

It is if you are actually putting one on a car. Do you plan on road racing or auto-xing your car? If not I dont really see a need for the bumpsteer kit. The CC plates will give you enough adjustment youll need for DDing the car.

And having the tie-rods at a 45 degree angle is just silly and im not quite sure how I can see that being a good idea

"In any case, unless you are going to measure and correct the bumpsteer, you should not purchase or
install the bumpsteer kit. You are more likely to make any bumpsteer worse by guessing at the correct adjustment. "

"If you are lowering the car, adding c/c plates will increase the available bump travel in the front over 1". This will allow you to
regain most of the lost bump travel from lowering the car."

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It is if you are actually putting one on a car. Do you plan on road racing or auto-xing your car? If not I dont really see a need for the bumpsteer kit. The CC plates will give you enough adjustment youll need for DDing the car.

And having the tie-rods at a 45 degree angle is just silly and im not quite sure how I can see that being a good idea

"In any case, unless you are going to measure and correct the bumpsteer, you should not purchase or
install the bumpsteer kit. You are more likely to make any bumpsteer worse by guessing at the correct adjustment. "

"If you are lowering the car, adding c/c plates will increase the available bump travel in the front over 1". This will allow you to
regain most of the lost bump travel from lowering the car."

^with stock k-member



That was an exaggeration but when the car is lowered as much as mine is the tie rods are angled way upwards.

I dont really understand how the car can bumpsteer worse if you set the tie rods parralel to the a arms vs having a retarded angle and no bump steer?...that just makes no sense to me lol

Its a street car and I thought I already mentioned my biggest reason for getting them was for tie rod clearance for the turbo piping since im so low in the front.
 

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I guess for your reasoning of needing clearance I completely understand. And if it does get your tie rod ends back to parallel vs a retarded angle then again, i do agree with you that I dont see how it could make it any worse.. specially for your reasoning. I presume there are always exceptions to things..

Otherwise those quotes are from one of MMs top guys
 

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From wh at ive read and been told by mm I have to disagree with making it worse by guessing. I guess we'll see when my car is back on the road.
 

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does no one adjust their caster and camber themselves? and why would you need your toe adjusted when adding c/c plates? toe is independent of caster and camber is it not?
 

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I have a feeling most places would laugh at you if you brought that bumpsteer gauge to them and asked them to set that up. I think a lot of them wouldn't have a clue.

does no one adjust their caster and camber themselves? and why would you need your toe adjusted when adding c/c plates? toe is independent of caster and camber is it not?

you can adjust it yourself but I don't see how you're going to know what it's set at without an alignment rack. The toe would need to be adjusted after CC plates because unless you got the strut in the exact same spot as before the toe is going to be affected.
 

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you can adjust it yourself but I don't see how you're going to know what it's set at without an alignment rack. The toe would need to be adjusted after CC plates because unless you got the strut in the exact same spot as before the toe is going to be affected.

I'm confident in my ability to adjust c/c. maybe I'll regret that confidence later, but for now I'm fine. lol. as for toe, I'm not seeing how the strut would affect it? forgive my ignorance but isn't the tie rod the only thing that determines toe?
 

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but my tires dont wear right because of not having CC plates

lol. no seriously. LOL. that is not why your tires are wearing

caster doesnt affect tire wear, and camber can be corrected by getting new struts with elongated holes or ovaling out your current strut's lower bolt hole.
 

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forgive my ignorance but isn't the tie rod the only thing that determines toe?

adjusting camber/caster affect toe. its only slightly, but it still does because the position of the steering knuckle moves. that is why when doing alignment you do caster, camber toe, rear first, then front. in that order
 

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Its simple, drill a hole, unbolt strut, and bolt new cc plates on

Sure thing; just looked at the instructions on AM and it looks rather simple. I guess I'll hopefully find time tomorrow to do it. Was hoping to do it yesterday or today but had to remove the body off a 2wd tacoma chassis and swap it onto a 4x4 chassis plus install 4x4 transmission with motor. Phew! I can do that but have never messed with CC plates lol lol
 

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