Gm closing plants in US

[MustangChris]

im beating up as many japanese hookers as i can find... i think its starting to pay off... lol

 

[DropTopPony]

It has nothing to do with the Japanese car companies, many of the Toyotas i sell are more "American Made" then the Domestics. Toyota and Honda build a quality product that has gained market share slowly over the years because most Americans are fed up with poorly designed and manufactured American cars that for the money don't stack up to the competition.

If Ford continues on its current path of building good cars it will take back its share of customers but this won't happen overnight and they know this that is why they started making cuts and changes 3 years ago and its working. GM and Chrysler are just in trouble.
The hottest car on the market is the Fuzion Hybrid, they can't make them fast enough and are selling them at full sticker price! When is the last time you heard that about an American car that wasn't a Shelby or Challenger etc?

 

[MustangChris]

the thing is Toyota isn't Unionized... so... they don't have to pay a 99 year old man who worked for 6 years in his 40s a $5,000 a month paycheck for 0 productivity. (That's obviously a gross exaggeration in hopes of bringing some sarcastic humor into the conversation.)

But when you include the pensions, the insurance, and the benefits that the GM employees make they earn something like $47.00 per hour. If you include all of that for the Toyota workers, they make something like $22.00 per hour.

Is this GMs fault? yeah sorta. But I blame the Unions more than the auto maker... GM paid their workers well when they were doing well. Now they aren't doing so well so its time for a change. (Not that Obama change either... REAL change.)

But are the unions gunna let $40+ an hour go? hell no... they are too retarded to see that even $15.00 an hour is better than $0.00....... . .

Does GM need to change? yes. sell the less-profitable names... saturn? hummer? i mean... geez... theres a billion bux in the bank right there...

The Union needs to reorganize as well... its time to face the music... "Boo hoo... our plants are shutting down" well, you're just pouring gas on the fire retards...

Finally, they need to reorganize the Detroit Lions... what a disgrace... Sports teams (especially old ones that are already established) can be some MAJOR money makers.... going without a Win on the scoreboard will NOT sell tickets, will NOT sell jerseys, will NOT sell hats, and will NOT bring in sponsorships or investors.

 

[destructo]

It all comes down to greed. If you can't make a car that sells, quit paying your upper Excs.... Back off giving them money for poor performance.

The plants will be sold to off shore companies and we'll be working for the off shore assholes. But the fall of our car industry is not our cars but the butthole CEOs that rape their American companies. They should all go to jail.

I've never understood that mindset either. If the decisions being made aren't making money, why give the people who are making those decisions the same money they got when their decisions were making their company money. It just seems like common sense to cut these outrageous and unearned bonuses and salaries. It's like some of these companies are run by the jewiest of jews and my last name is Solomon so I can say that.

 

[MustangChris]

It all comes down to greed. If you can't make a car that sells, quit paying your upper Excs.... Back off giving them money for poor performance.

The plants will be sold to off shore companies and we'll be working for the off shore assholes. But the fall of our car industry is not our cars but the butthole CEOs that rape their American companies. They should all go to jail.

I've never understood that mindset either. If the decisions being made aren't making money, why give the people who are making those decisions the same money they got when their decisions were making their company money. It just seems like common sense to cut these outrageous and unearned bonuses and salaries. It's like some of these companies are run by the jewiest of jews and my last name is Solomon so I can say that.

I completely agree with that... These companies arent running the way they should... bonuses shouldnt be chosen by the people who recieve them... we have the exact same problem wiht Congress...

I blame the unions more than the executives though...

as for the selling of the plants to off-shore companies... maybe... american labor is expensive (just ask GM...)

why bother buying American Land (taxes) with an American building (expensive upkeep) to pay American workers ($$$) when you can jsut buy a wooden shack in China to pay 12 year olds a $1.00 a day for their labor?

will the GM plants be used to build cars if GM shuts down? maybe. maybe airplanes, tanks, or boats instead...

 

[NERD]

I guess GM is shutting down Pontiac as well.

 

[MustangChris]

Chrysler, according to a report by The New York Times, is preparing a Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing under government supervision, and will likely file as early as Monday. The government had offered Chrysler $6B USD in loans if it could complete a merger deal with Fiat, but Fiat has refused to commit to such a deal <b>until the UAW makes steep concessions (which appears unlikely)</b> or the company washes its debts via bankruptcy. The deadline for the merger is next Thursday, but the government may give Chrysler an extension if it files for bankruptcy protection.


http://www.dailytech.com/Reports+Chrysler+to+Go+Bankrupt+GM+to+Kill+Pontiac+Monday/article14961.htm



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