goodbye to the camaro, again.
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trebor3170
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Every body wants a Stupid Ugly Vehicle
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RAU03MACH
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This is why GM is failing , cant make good cars, copy other brands , over price , cant seem to keep a car in the making , on off again ,
Had a Camaro iroc with a 350 had to always work on that car finally sold it and got a f150
just glad to get rid of it
no more GM for me.
Had a Camaro iroc with a 350 had to always work on that car finally sold it and got a f150
just glad to get rid of it
no more GM for me.
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I think gm is just going in too many directions now between electric/hybrid and then they just have too many performance platforms that are competing against each other between caddy, corvette and camaro.
Ask me, GM made a smart move dumping the camaro with the midrear vette about to debut. You want pony performance, buy the vette....GM's original street performer. They only made the camaro to compete with the Mustang market.
And with that said you want ford pony performance, buy the Mustang......only makes sense.
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And with that said you want ford pony performance, buy the Mustang......only makes sense.
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I appreciate the camaro but the 2019 front end is horrendous, in person it is worse than photos. Might be smart to make an affordable corvette and put their energy into that platform rather than having multiple performance coupes
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I don't see the price of the vette going down with a completely new platform myself
It died once before then came back. It’s like a bad horror story where the ugly disfigured bad guy keeps coming back again and again.
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lutter94
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What really grinds my gears is when they came out with their 50th anniversary.
Tell me this, if you split up for a while with your wife, do you get to keep counting anniversary's in the same way???
Tell me this, if you split up for a while with your wife, do you get to keep counting anniversary's in the same way???
Good point! Yes, show me the 40th anniversary model!
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Realistically I don't think it would ever happen either. A cheap version of a vette would diminish the reputation of the product too
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This is the downside of what were once great American brands becoming transnational corporations - they eventually become so removed from their heritage they don't remember what they're about.
Back in the Great Recession's beginning, when GM had to be bailed out, the Govt decided GM had too many brands and should downsize/consolidate.
The CEO admitted on camera later that the decision to axe Pontiac was made by the fact that someone decided Buick would be the brand to break open the market in China. Yeah, i dont get it either, but let's not digress. He said if they axed Buick instead, they would have to start over completely in that market. Screw the Americans who built and bought the cars and the company, because we want Chinese sales not to drop, we'll instead drop a brand which was finally starting to get back on it's feet with some interesting cars. Pontiac Excitement? Instead we're stuck with Buick and Cadillac, two brands for those over 70.
Fast forward to today, and I'm disappointed but not surprised. GM was a disappointing third to join the 'retro' game, with the 05 Mustang and the return of the Challenger coming first. They don't get the market.
I love Ford, but we've had our own miscues too. The woman in charge of the reintroduced Thunderbird didn't understand the last 20 years of 5 seat cars with both performance and more of a luxury/roomy feel than a Mustang. Instead we got a 3900lb two seater convertible that was heavier/slower/less capable in every way compared to its predecessor. Why? Because she thought it "looked cute". Ugh.
These people gave forgotten that if the people don't like it, we won't buy it. They dont know what we want, and in many cases dont seem interested in finding out.
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sorry guys i get wound up some times.
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Back in the Great Recession's beginning, when GM had to be bailed out, the Govt decided GM had too many brands and should downsize/consolidate.
The CEO admitted on camera later that the decision to axe Pontiac was made by the fact that someone decided Buick would be the brand to break open the market in China. Yeah, i dont get it either, but let's not digress. He said if they axed Buick instead, they would have to start over completely in that market. Screw the Americans who built and bought the cars and the company, because we want Chinese sales not to drop, we'll instead drop a brand which was finally starting to get back on it's feet with some interesting cars. Pontiac Excitement? Instead we're stuck with Buick and Cadillac, two brands for those over 70.
Fast forward to today, and I'm disappointed but not surprised. GM was a disappointing third to join the 'retro' game, with the 05 Mustang and the return of the Challenger coming first. They don't get the market.
I love Ford, but we've had our own miscues too. The woman in charge of the reintroduced Thunderbird didn't understand the last 20 years of 5 seat cars with both performance and more of a luxury/roomy feel than a Mustang. Instead we got a 3900lb two seater convertible that was heavier/slower/less capable in every way compared to its predecessor. Why? Because she thought it "looked cute". Ugh.
These people gave forgotten that if the people don't like it, we won't buy it. They dont know what we want, and in many cases dont seem interested in finding out.
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sorry guys i get wound up some times.
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I thought I heard buick in the asian areas had been big for a while but I have never been there. Pontiac excitement I thought was more of a marketing term than anything. I mean remember how exciting the GTO went over? I knew more then a few people that had a pontiac, but they never had another one. I know car fans of all types but I am not really aware of a big pontiac crowd and never have. Not saying there is a big buick crowd either but neither one of them were ever all that big on my list. In reality both of them were lines that competed against other GM lines. Remember mercury's?
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I don't know about you, but if I had to buy a new non-mustang in the mid 00 years, a 6spd GTO was near the top of my list. Im not a huge GM guy but i loved those cars. Drove one a friend had. Disable skip shift and you're golden.
And my wife loves her Mountaineer, we'd buy another one in a heartbeat.
If I hadn't found my 96gt, I so was trying to talk the Mrs. into letting me buy a Fox Capri. She thought they were hideous, so the 96 was easy to talk her into.
Anything else? lol
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The motor was great it was just too bad they made them look so much like the former gtp's that no one wanted to touch it when it was new. I didn't say mercury made good looking cars I was trying to point out that they went the way of pontiac for the same reason. No need to make a model/platform to compete against the other.
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Maybe they will just wait until the next Mustang redesign to copy it and return to market.
Speaking of Corvettes, I'm partial to the older ones. The C6/C7 generations are fantastic but it's hard to beat the bang-for-the-buck value of a C5 Z06.
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Like the old rear split window sting ray , and the gen 4 vets
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