guys with auto's and 4.30's

[Sn95Willis]

I have my 4.30's and just getting ready to put them in. I ran a 14.6 @ 94 with just an O/R X and mufflers... What could I expect to get out of her now.. Also those of you with autos and 4.30's let me know how you are doing and how tall tire you run at the track...

 

[justinschmidt1]

Do you have sticky tires?

You can expect to spin a lot and run slower if not.

lol

I would think anywhere from .2-.5 with traction?

Thats a lot of gear but it should definately get that car rolling.

 

[Sn95Willis]

Yea I got sticky tires... Nitto drag radials anyway..

 

[justinschmidt1]

oh god...well, if you can hook I dont see why you wouldnt see atleast low 14s.

 

[Sn95Willis]

I am thinking atleast a 13.9.. I know I could get a 14.4 out of it now as is..... We will see soon..

 

[justinschmidt1]

your think your gonna knock off 7 tenths with gears?
:dontknow:


I dont think so...lol

 

[Sn95Willis]

I know its no car but my friends 00 GTknocked off .6 tenths when he went to 4.10's in his 4r70w... I have only had the car on the track once and I got to make 2 pass's both reulting in 14.6 @ 94.. Now I didnt let any tire pressure out I didnt stall it up any I just line up and went.. I think with a little more time And the car as it is ( the same as when I got the 14.6) I can get it down to a 14.4.. If That is achieved and when the gears are installed I see no reason why a 13.9 isnt a good goal...

 

[justinschmidt1]

This feels like deja vu.....

Seriously, go for it...but your car is a stock NPI mustang with an o/r x pipe....4.30 gears are kinda overkill on a npi anyway...

I seriously doubt you will see 13.9 but good luck.

Im not pulling shit out of my ass.....its all from my experiance with my car.

I have a 96 GT auto and went through it all with bolt ons.

The stock stall is not high enough to get that car moving out of the hole worth a shit.

My car ran about what yours did...I had exhaust and 3.73s when I ran like 14.5-14.6 at 96 I believe

It took me a lot of bolt ons, tune, 3.73s, long tubes, o/r h pipe, and a pi intake to get my car to 14.0.

My 60 foots were crap, like 2.1s
The biggest problem was the 60 foot so maybe with the 4.30s you will be able to get out of the hole like the car should so I would think with traction you could definately pull low 14s....but anything better than low 14s seems optimistic.

 

[1996slowstang]

I know its no car but my friends 00 GTknocked off .6 tenths when he went to 4.10's in his 4r70w... I have only had the car on the track once and I got to make 2 pass's both reulting in 14.6 @ 94.. Now I didnt let any tire pressure out I didnt stall it up any I just line up and went.. I think with a little more time And the car as it is ( the same as when I got the 14.6) I can get it down to a 14.4.. If That is achieved and when the gears are installed I see no reason why a 13.9 isnt a good goal...

I think your goal can be achived with gears and a good set of stickey tires,but I can see why justin don't think so because it took him full bolt-on's,gears,tune,headers,etc.to run a 14 flat and that would suck if you went to the track and ran a 13.9 with just gears and a good set of stickey tires.So get those gears in their take it to the track and let us know how it went. Good luck man.

 

[justinschmidt1]

yea...well atleast in your case your 5 speed so it could happen.

He is auto, so he is stuck with weak launches.

I know that with 3.73s and dead hook my car would only pull 2.1 60 foots.

Maybe the 4.30s will make a huge differance, I dont know.

This isnt a matter of me being mad about him doing more with less...its more about reality.

My car is not a drag car...with a stall, sticky tires, and steeper gears Im sure my car would have ran mid to low 13s...but I dont care, cause its my DD.


Its the same car..do you comprehend this....same car...does not make sense for him to run 13.9 with gears and x pipe when everyone else runs mid/low 14s with gears and x pipe...see my point here?

its like me telling you my stock PI gt runs 12s with slicks and an x pipe

 

[1996slowstang]

yea...well atleast in your case your 5 speed so it could happen.

He is auto, so he is stuck with weak launches.

I know that with 3.73s and dead hook my car would only pull 2.1 60 foots.

Maybe the 4.30s will make a huge differance, I dont know.

This isnt a matter of me being mad about him doing more with less...its more about reality.

My car is not a drag car...with a stall, sticky tires, and steeper gears Im sure my car would have ran mid to low 13s...but I dont care, cause its my DD.


Its the same car..do you comprehend this....same car...does not make sense for him to run 13.9 with gears and x pipe when everyone else runs mid/low 14s with gears and x pipe...see my point here?

its like me telling you my stock PI gt runs 12s with slicks and an x pipe

Sorry, but they are not the same car your car had 3.73 gears so you say his car will have 4.30 gears his car will also have a good set of stickey tire's you and him are not the same driver so ya the cars are not the same.Just like when I took my car to the track and ran a 14.4@95mph and posted on here and everybody said that was a good time for a npi car because most people with a 5-speed npi gt run 14.8 to 15.xx.but I do think that if you took 2 5-speed gt off the show room floor took them to the track same driver same gears same tires,etc.I do think that they would be with in a.1 or so of each other. But you saying your auto car and somebody else's auto car are the same they are not to many variable's to say that I think that is why we see so many different times out of cars because human error,gears,track,etc.

 

[justinschmidt1]

Dude, no...

he could put 5.90 gears in his car too.....doesnt mean it will go faster.

More gear is not always better...the usable powerband in a npi is pretty small so the 4.30 gears wont do near as much as they would in a cobra revs to 7k..

Just like you, he can go to the track and find out..My prediction is low 14s...take it or leave it, dont fucking come here and argue with me when your the one asking for opinions.


ERACING IS GAY >STOP DOING IT

 

[Sn95Willis]

Sorry didnt mean to start any fights lol.. And I am not trying to argue either.. But hey you said with 3.73's and exaust your ran 14.4,14.5's .. I am basiclly there with just an X pipe... Your sixty 60' was 2.1 with gears.. Mine was 2.1 with stock gears... I know with another night at the track with just the car as is I could get a 14.5 or 14.4 out of it.... And like I said I am not guaranteing a 13.9. Its just my goal.....

 

[1996slowstang]

silver281gt I see what you mean but some people just don't get it I guess they think all gt's run the exact same and gears don't change a thing.

 

[justinschmidt1]

Sorry didnt mean to start any fights lol.. And I am not trying to argue either.. But hey you said with 3.73's and exaust your ran 14.4,14.5's .. I am basiclly there with just an X pipe... Your sixty 60' was 2.1 with gears.. Mine was 2.1 with stock gears... I know with another night at the track with just the car as is I could get a 14.5 or 14.4 out of it.... And like I said I am not guaranteing a 13.9. Its just my goal.....

I wasnt very clear...the best 60 foot I was able to cut even with all the bolt ons and a supercharger with the STOCK STALL and 3.73s was like 2.05-2.1

When I ran my car with 3.73s and exhaust I remember running around 14.6 but with a 2.2 60 foot....I remember thinking that I could run low 14s with a 2.0 60 foot but I was modding the car before I ever really tryed working on the 60 foot and using the power I had.


Im not sure how 4.30s will affect your car...I know I didnt feel like 3.73s did all that much for my car when I swapped from 3.08s...just felt like it shifted faster, didnt really Pull harder.

I hope you can do it, im just saying more likely to be lower 14s without some weight reduction and suspension mods.

I really dont know why slowfagstang feels to post his BS everytime someone asks a question about thier car.

We have had this discussion like 5 times, you think you can run 13s in a bonestock npi with slicks, I dont think you can.

You have yet to prove me wrong so untill then STFU.

 

[Sn95Willis]

Hold on bro...I dont know where you are coming off telling me to shut the fuck up?? I didnt say shit to you that warrants that.. All I did was state what I have done so far and what I hope to do... I am sorry with ( I wasnt very clear...the best 60 foot I was able to cut even with all the bolt ons and a supercharger with the STOCK STALL and 3.73s was like 2.05-2.1) <<<< you said that,,, That I am still getting damn near the same 60' you got.. So you can take your STFU some where else...
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[justinschmidt1]

Hold on bro...I dont know where you are coming off telling me to shut the f**k up?? I didnt say shit to you that warrants that.. All I did was state what I have done so far and what I hope to do... I am sorry with ( I wasnt very clear...the best 60 foot I was able to cut even with all the bolt ons and a supercharger with the STOCK STALL and 3.73s was like 2.05-2.1) <<<< you said that,,, That I am still getting damn near the same 60' you got.. So you can take your STFU some where else...
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Jesus. Christ.

Im not talking to you....see the slow(fag)stang thing? his name is slowstang.....

He has been arguing about how he is gonna run 13.9 for a month and seems to poke in everytime I post and write comments pointing towards me not thinking he can run 13.9 in stock npi with slicks.


My point was that even with more power and gear, the stock stall and limited low end of a 4.6 kind of screws us auto guys unless we have a lot of gear or stall.

 

[Sn95Willis]

Well sorry if the STFU thing wasnt towards me.. It just kinda all runs together and I took it wrong... And trust me i know how the autos suck but its what I would rather have.. I can tell you from experiance and it was frustrating let me tell you.. I had a 2002 GT auto, my best friend had a 2000 GT auto. We both had the same exact bolt-on's gears and tires.. I could never do better then a 13.8. he ran 13'4,13'5's all day long... I used to get so mad lol..

 

[justinschmidt1]

Well sorry if the STFU thing wasnt towards me.. It just kinda all runs together and I took it wrong... And trust me i know how the autos suck but its what I would rather have.. I can tell you from experiance and it was frustrating let me tell you.. I had a 2002 GT auto, my best friend had a 2000 GT auto. We both had the same exact bolt-on's gears and tires.. I could never do better then a 13.8. he ran 13'4,13'5's all day long... I used to get so mad lol..

lol..Thats wierd. Did he have better 60 foots or anything?

 

[Sn95Willis]

Yea he had better 60's.. My car was a turd out the whole for some reason..