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Ok guys so i was like yo why does my bbk cold air just stop in the fender? WTF! So I went and got some tubing and I'm fabing an extension to the bottom of the bumper cover. Will i get any gains from it? Probably not. Will it be worth the cash i dropped? Probably for the piece of mind of having a real intake. Will it amount to something with more mods? I'm thinking so. Oh yeah and technically its still smog legal because no tech will be checking my fender well. So since I got the bug to fab me something up and this was simple and will yield some technically arguable advantages over the standard bbk and other aftermarket intakes I said screw it I'm going for it. So here are the pics of the tubing:
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then together:
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and of course my absolutley hideous welds:
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Lol a little late for the march kit they won't let me return welded parts :)
 
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I had to special order it through work through walker exhaust. Ill get the part numbers when i go to work. I had to go that route because no where in my immediate area has the dyes to bend or swell tubing to 3.5 in to match the bbk. I got a coupler through specter for 3.5in to couple this pipe to the bbk. U honestly think the best way to do it would be to find a shop that can bend 3.5 in tubing and have them bend a 90 degree at one end and then give you like 16 inches on the down side so you can trim it to fit. I'll be painting and installing it this weekend! oh and thanks for the interest/support guys it makes it all the better.
 

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for it to be ram-air it would need to have an inlet exposed to the outside that would help to catch and "ram" the air into the intake. If you were to shape it to come into the fog light opening or something it could count and I think might help but just running it further down the fender imo will just allow it to possibly act like a vaccume and suck debris and maybe even water now in a heavy downfall or a big puddle. How far off the ground is it now?
 
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It's not in yet but it'll be an inch off the inside of the skirt. I'm figuring that since my fog lights are missing and there's a huge opening just beyond the bumper it'll get more flow overall and I'm going to get an outerwear so I'm not worried about debris or water. I understand the ram air principle but I want fog lights after I do my cobra bumper.
 
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I also believe it'll make more efficient use of the filter area due to it being in a more open location plus the diverted that flows air into the radiator will be feeding the intake as well
 
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ok so its done and installed. i have other issues with the car so i cant say anything about if it made any difference but im happy with it. so here is the final size and shape:
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after paint and with the filter:
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here is the stock location of the bbk filter:
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and here is the final product installed:
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let me know what you guys think and i think im gonna try and snap a few more pics tomorrow.
 

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I doubt that's doing anything, especially considering your BBK CAI has a gigantic pre-MAF bend.
I hope you enjoyed yourself with your fabrication hobby.
 

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I might like it because the new filter I bought will not fit through the hole in the fender and this would make it easier to replace it in the fender. But as he said I would love to see an A-B dyno run to see what a difference it makes......
 
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im going to say it probably doesn't make a difference at all. In theory it should considering the amount of airflow there is in the new location compared to the old but who knows. The intake is noticeably louder than before though :shrug: oh and they all have a pre maf bend unless you run the maf in the fender well. two things about that one its not legal in cali which is where i live and need to have my car legal because they are running random roadside checks out here and two moving the maf shouldn't yield a better charge or more power due to the fact that the intake track is not changing shape based on maf location so the 90 degree bends are still there the thing is now the maf calculates the airflow and then the air goes through the bends losing velocity and then the fuel mixture will be off due to the change in air after the maf. right?
 

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The bends post MAF have zero affect on air/fuel mixture. It's those immediately before causing turbulence and inconsistent readings by the MAF.
 

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Insayne said:
im going to say it probably doesn't make a difference at all. In theory it should considering the amount of airflow there is in the new location compared to the old but who knows. The intake is noticeably louder than before though :shrug: oh and they all have a pre maf bend unless you run the maf in the fender well. two things about that one its not legal in cali which is where i live and need to have my car legal because they are running random roadside checks out here and two moving the maf shouldn't yield a better charge or more power due to the fact that the intake track is not changing shape based on maf location so the 90 degree bends are still there the thing is now the maf calculates the airflow and then the air goes through the bends losing velocity and then the fuel mixture will be off due to the change in air after the maf. right?

Random road side checks? wtf is that? Is that if your car is too loud they can pull you over?
 
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any bends make turbulence period slowing the air thus affect fuel ratio. whether the maf reads air after its slowed or before. i really dont see big differences with the maf being relocated. plus it needs to be re calibrated if moved to a different location right? could be wrong. either way its illegal for me to move it and since shes my dd and my transportation for my kid i need it to be legit. the random roadside checks are a new smog thing. they can set up road side stations where a whole lane of traffic has to pull over and be inspected and even put on a sniffer and other similar bs. majority of it leads to fix it tickets but if when they hit the ground and your catless they can take your ride and then pull the license of the smog tech who last smoged the ride.
 

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louder, as in you can just hear it sucking better because of location or do you hear air turbulance noise? Noise in the intake is caused by turbulance and not a good thing, if it was flowing smoothly you would not hear it.
 

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