Modular Mustang Racing oil pump failure

[cmher18]

To me it looks like a thrust bearing failure, see how the crank rubbed the back of the pump, that is impossible to happen unless the thrust bearing was left out or went bad.


Were did these marks come from on the back of the pump????

 

[atrainsgt]

They also think they are going to pull 500rw from an NA 2v too, which is pretty ridiculous.

I don't see why they can't do it. I doubt it will still be a 4.6 though. There was a dealer at our mid America shelby meet this year that said they made well over 500hp with a na 2v.

 

[NERD]

From 12:1 compression and on pump gas? "I Don't Think So Tim."

 

[atrainsgt]

I'll agree with you there. Don't know if that will happen. Certainly won't be street friendly if it does happen.

 

[karrarararararar]

They also think they are going to pull 500rw from an NA 2v too, which is pretty ridiculous.

I don't see why they can't do it. I doubt it will still be a 4.6 though. There was a dealer at our mid America shelby meet this year that said they made well over 500hp with a na 2v.

it's not 4.6, it's a 5.4 with trickflow heads and edelbrock intake 12:1 cr. I think it has the potential to put down some impressive numbers considering Livernois put down 436 at the crank on a 4.6 with highly ported heads

http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1167349

 

[NERD]

They also think they are going to pull 500rw from an NA 2v too, which is pretty ridiculous.

I don't see why they can't do it. I doubt it will still be a 4.6 though. There was a dealer at our mid America shelby meet this year that said they made well over 500hp with a na 2v.

it's not 4.6, it's a 5.4 with trickflow heads and edelbrock intake 12:1 cr. I think it has the potential to put down some impressive numbers considering Livernois put down 436 at the crank on a 4.6 with highly ported heads

http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1167349

With the Edle 4.6 intake w/ plates that screw injector flow patterns,I'll eat my foot if this car EVER makes anywhere near 500rwhp WHICH is what they are claiming. Not 500fw.



I've been in the livernois shop and watched them make numbers with there's chassis and engine dynos. Remarking that they can make their numbers read what ever they want.

Hardcore Motorsports had that same attitude and after several years, people realized they were BS and they went belly up.

 

[atrainsgt]

I just read through the MMR build. I don't think it will make 500 either. I'm guessing 415-440 on a dynojet. It's hard to say how much more power the 5.4 will make over a 4.6 with a better matched intake. Best trickflow headed 4.6 I've seen was in the 390rwhp range.

 

[karrarararararar]

They also think they are going to pull 500rw from an NA 2v too, which is pretty ridiculous.

I don't see why they can't do it. I doubt it will still be a 4.6 though. There was a dealer at our mid America shelby meet this year that said they made well over 500hp with a na 2v.

it's not 4.6, it's a 5.4 with trickflow heads and edelbrock intake 12:1 cr. I think it has the potential to put down some impressive numbers considering Livernois put down 436 at the crank on a 4.6 with highly ported heads

http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1167349

With the Edle 4.6 intake w/ plates that screw injector flow patterns, I'll eat my foot if this car EVER makes anywhere near 500rwhp WHICH is what they are claiming. Not 500fw.



I've been in the livernois shop and watched them make numbers with there's chassis and engine dynos. Remarking that they can make their numbers read what ever they want.

Hardcore Motorsports had that same attitude and after several years, people realized they were BS and they went belly up.

i realize the plates mess with the injectors and nor did i say i think it's gonna make 500 rwhp, I just said it does have the potential to put down some impressive numbers. If it's anything than needed the TFS heads, it's the 5.4

 

[NERD]

I wasn't being crass, just talking.

 

[karrarararararar]

yeah, I know. I was just saying i know it's probably not gonna be what they're expecting but it should still be pretty BA that's all

 

[vermilion]

still an interesting build.

 

[NERD]

yeah, I know. I was just saying i know it's probably not gonna be what they're expecting but it should still be pretty BA that's all

absolutely.

 

[cmher18]

Good thing I bought an 03/04 Cobra oil pump!

and you have every right too. its not like he was out a $50 product. Hopefully it all works/worked out for your friend!

There are other people how have had their Modular Mustang Racing oil pumps fail on them too
aspecially on the Corral and Modular Fords.
That guy Chris from Modular Mustang Racing really showed how unprofessional he was in your thread.

Im sorry for getting heated. But all we asked is for costumers to Please send there pump back to us so we can see what happen. 90% of the time they wont send it back. I One we did get back had bearing mtl. lodge in the pump. I called the gay and asked him to look at his bearing. He called me the nexted day. To say sorry and he did indeed lose a bearing. Witch then got sucked into the pump.

If it was 100% the pump that fail we would help out. But everytime something happen everyone start pointing fingers. Just like tuning. You take your car to get tuned. 2 weeks later it breaks. Guess who they blame The tuner.

Im done here and sorry if i was out of line.

 

[SRT Handz]

From 12:1 compression and on pump gas? "I Don't Think So Tim."

QTF

 

[codeystang]

I have taken apart oil pumps several times before.It looks to me that a internal part inside
that MMR oil pump was defective and failed.That MMR oil pump looks quite pathetic
and it sounds very sketchy running a MMR oil pump.Oil pumps should last a long time.
Thanks again Pennywise2 for posting your friends' experience.

 

[vermilion]

i think theres more to this story then blaming one company. thanks for pictures though.

 

[Steven]

There are a few 400 hp NA 2v cars that are rolling around. Speaking with the people that built them, they are extremely unreliable and a rascal to drive. I tend to wonder about most peoples plans. It seems high horsepower all motor modulars tend to loose all their charm when you put the camshaft required to make the power in there. Just my observations anyway

 

[vermilion]

any vehicle at that level almost any vehicle is.

 

[Steven]

Back in the day, folk drove 500 horse power fords and chevys everyday. My old man was one of them. It all has to do with your comfort zone

 

[cmher18]

There are a few 400 hp NA 2v cars that are rolling around. Speaking with the people that built them, they are extremely unreliable and a rascal to drive. I tend to wonder about most peoples plans. It seems high horsepower all motor modulars tend to loose all their charm when you put the camshaft required to make the power in there. Just my observations anyway

Tim From MPH Is very good at getting High HP modulars to drive like stock Just have to be a good tuning