Pulling my first engine. Could use some help ID'ing some connectors.

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I have no use for abs because like Chris mentioned, I know how to stop correctly. haha, regardless, I know im gunna have more questions about certain evap lines...
 

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Unless the driver ahead was trying to have you crash into him you weren't driving ahead of his bumper. If you were, you would have seen or have been aware what he almost didn't see and had already started to brake. It's called situational awareness and defensive driving.
 

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How do you stop correctly when the car in front off you slams on his breaks...

it all depends on the situation. First and foremost you should leave proper space between you and the car in front of you (5 car lengths for every 10 MPH).

Although this sounds like "a lot" do the math:
a car is ~12 feet long. at 70 miles per hour thats 35 car lengths. Thats 420 feet. At 102 feet per second (70MPH) thats only 4 seconds.

With 100% observation on the road that gives you enough time to safely handle the car to a safe stop. If you're distracted it takes ~3 seconds to respond to an emergency.

SO: moral of the story, dont tail-gate, pay attention.

Now, proper "stopping" techniques. If you plan to stop in a straight line (IE: theres a cliff on one side and gobs of traffic on the other and the car in front off you slams on the brakes) you will be forced to slam on the brakes in their entirety. This will use 100% of your traction to stop, thus being the fastest way of stopping. ABS limits this form of stopping so people can maintain control of their steering (we'll get to that next) which lengthens the amount of space a car needs to stop (because they are not fully applying the brakes.)

"Why ABS?" Most people are not properly trained to operate their heavy machinery (yes, i called a car "heavy machinery".) When they get into a situation where they are on a big empty road and a deer hops in front of them, they slam on the brake ans jerk the wheel. By slamming on the brakes they are now using 100% of their traction to stop, thus jerking the wheel does little for steering (ever seen those black skid marks sliding right into a side-rail? barely any curve to it at all? now you know why)...

By reducing the braking power provided, the unskilled driver has traction which is not being used to stop to allocate to turning. This aids in the "OMFG WTF?" moments where people slam on the brakes and jerk the wheel, but it harms in the "AHHHH!!!" moments where people have to slam on the brakes and keep the car straight in hopes of stopping in time...

Therefore, a car without ABS, *in the hands of a trained driver*, is the safest form of braking as they are the ones who arent texting while driving and understand the performance of their vehicle.

My qualifications: Driver's ed completed three separate times at two different schools with flying colors. Am I a "professional driver"? Am I "all-knowing"? no. But I'm further along than 99.99999% of my fellow drivers.
 

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I have. Big brakes so stopping is never a issue in snow, rain , hail, mud k maybe not mud but you get the idea
 

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I have cobra brakes on both my cars.. My point was no abs in a DD does not mean you can stop faster because it's not a control environment something can come out of no were condition can change rapidly. Abs might give you that small edge.. Unless you are going to stop in a straight line.. Even then weather can have an impact
 

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I won't lie the first line I read in this thread by OP I instantly thought I was reading "What does this button do..." and just felt the need to throw it out there haha. Glad he got it figured out.

And ABS is for sissies. You won't find it in either one of my cars, or traction control for that matter. Can't help but thing the two might be related... ;) I have 0 working ABS sensors on my beater, and 2 working on my stang meaning I have no traction control or ABS. Good thing I know how to drive lol
 

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First one is the foglight pigtail. Buy some fogs and a switch and install them. Your car is max-wired.

Second one is the plug for the cruise control in the drivers' side fenderwell near the door. All the evap stuff is in the PASSENGER fenderwell.

I don't think that #3 is the test connector for the ABS, I've always been told it's for the washer pump. Then again, I've never needed to test either of them.

EDIT-- I'm assuming that you're asking about the connectors you have shown that are UNPLUGGED. I don't recall what the plugged in connector in #3 is.
 

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Can't get a brake on here.. With out being told to be wrong...
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Hmm, I wonder why they left that wire in there, but omitted the main diagnostic plug. The small gray plug is I'm guessing the self-test input to be jumped just like the EEC Tester on the pass. side?

Can't get a break on here.. With out being told to be wrong...

and to reinforce your point, fix.T. (unless you were making a pun)
 

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I just saying what the plug is for.. He had no abs but the car should still have most of the wiring for it. Like cruise control.. Should have non but bet some if the wiring still there..
 

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