Questions about tuning and chips for our cars

[94Pro-5.0]

so i'm ready to tune or get my car tuned. i called dallas mustang and hpp racing and talked to the dyno guys. DM wants to charge $120 per hour plus $300 for the chip, and it usually takes 2-3 hours. HPP charges a flat rate of $500 including practically unlimited runs and the chip. its $35 extra if they have to adjust the timing, so $535.

my questions:

1. They say i need an SCT chip if i dont buy one from them. what are my chip choices and where do i get them?

2. If i go with one of these 2 places to get my car tuned, which sounds like the better choice?

3. is there a better alternative to tuning my car for basically the same price?

 

[forcefed5pt0]

i tried buying a mail order chip from kenne bell, sence i run there blower setup. came with new mass air and chip. car wouldnt run, bearly start. they sent me another one( charged me too) and with a mix and match of the two, car would run, but not much better than the pro-m 80mm i was using. i have over a $1000 in just kenne bell chips and mass air, and i had to take my car to the local dyno, spend$500 for them to erase the chip and reprograme it. but it runs great now. dyno shop the only way on 94-95 cars. and most chips are sct or made by sct, mine are. I dont the dallas area, cant say what shop to go to, prices seem in line. but let me know if you want a 90mm mass air and 2 stage chip, ive got one extra :hammer:

 

[Javi]

Yeah its pretty much it,only dyno tunes are available for our cars.As far as i know.

 

[95 svt cobra]

that or the twEECer shit but you need a wideband to do that properly and windows xp PRO edition not the home edition

 

[94Pro-5.0]

but let me know if you want a 90mm mass air and 2 stage chip, ive got one extra :hammer:

if i buy that chip can i take it to the dyno tuner, have them erase it, and tune my car with it?

how much do you want?

 

[5litrarag]

i tried buying a mail order chip from kenne bell, sence i run there blower setup. came with new mass air and chip. car wouldnt run, bearly start. they sent me another one( charged me too) and with a mix and match of the two, car would run, but not much better than the pro-m 80mm i was using. i have over a $1000 in just kenne bell chips and mass air, and i had to take my car to the local dyno, spend$500 for them to erase the chip and reprograme it. but it runs great now. dyno shop the only way on 94-95 cars. and most chips are sct or made by sct, mine are. I dont the dallas area, cant say what shop to go to, prices seem in line. but let me know if you want a 90mm mass air and 2 stage chip, ive got one extra :hammer:

AM I reading this right? You have an 80 mm Pro M that you aren't using? Is it calibrated for 42 lb injectors?

 

[forcefed5pt0]

AM I reading this right? You have an 80 mm Pro M that you aren't using? Is it calibrated for 42 lb injectors?

yes 42 lb and pro-m says a supercharger. looks pretty sittin in my room.

if i buy that chip can i take it to the dyno tuner, have them erase it, and tune my car with it?

how much do you want?

to use this mass air you have to cut the socket that connects to it, and replace it with some oddball size. i dont know how intrested you are in doing that, i can take pics of what i did if you like.

 

[94Pro-5.0]

eh no thanks, i dont think i really need that

 

[5litrarag]

AM I reading this right? You have an 80 mm Pro M that you aren't using? Is it calibrated for 42 lb injectors?

yes 42 lb and pro-m says a supercharger. looks pretty sittin in my room.

if i buy that chip can i take it to the dyno tuner, have them erase it, and tune my car with it?

how much do you want?

to use this mass air you have to cut the socket that connects to it, and replace it with some oddball size. i dont know how intrested you are in doing that, i can take pics of what i did if you like.

Cut the socket? That sounds like a Lightning meter or one that was setup for an OBD2 car.... post a pic of it and the connector.

If it is a Pro M do you want to sell it still?

 

[P.S.I.cho]

to original poster:

i went through this on my car with the chip selection, etc etc, dont do the mail order tunes they are worthless, you spend $300 for the chip $65 for the first dyno, u send the chip in they send it back you take your car to the dyno $65 again, WTF chip still not tune for the car so you send it back, its never ending!!! im not a huge fan of the SCT chip parameters, how ever the diablo sport revolution chip is very versatile and id highly recommend using that chip after i saw all the parameters, but before u buy any chips make sure you find some one that can tune it for you and make sure he does good work! many cars shorten engine life on bad tunes.

about MAF: dont cut the connector...if its a lightning MAF they make an adapter to go from the lightning plug to the sn95 plug, if its a Pro-m style plug , pro-m makes an adapter to go from their maf to our sn95 plug

 

[forcefed5pt0]

i do believe it is a lighting mass air, but not sure, ill take a pic for all to see, and i do have a pro-m as well that is for sale if your intrested

 

[Paul]

about MAF: dont cut the connector...if its a lightning MAF they make an adapter to go from the lightning plug to the sn95 plug, if its a Pro-m style plug , pro-m makes an adapter to go from their maf to our sn95 plug

Got links to said plugs?

 

[Jrgunn5150]

that or the twEECer shit but you need a wideband to do that properly and windows xp PRO edition not the home edition

Before widebands people still used tweecer, they just read plug's alot. Tweecer looks nice, really nice.

Widebands are cheap nowadays anyway.

 

[P.S.I.cho]

about MAF: dont cut the connector...if its a lightning MAF they make an adapter to go from the lightning plug to the sn95 plug, if its a Pro-m style plug , pro-m makes an adapter to go from their maf to our sn95 plug

Got links to said plugs?

i used to have a online store link but i cant find it at the moment but these guys claim to make the said adapter you could give them a call. control+F on keyboard search words pigtail.

http://www.lasotaracing.com/Late model maf.html

heres another one i found without pictures, with a little research im sure you could find/make your own
http://www.theracersparadise.com/product/F7396

 

[forcefed5pt0]

couple shots of pro-m, kenne bell and stock one to show differnt plug hookup plus kenne bell chip

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[P.S.I.cho]

pro-m makes their own conversion harness they send it with all their MAF's if you tell them its for sn95

 

[Paul]

Thanks P.S.I.cho - very informative. I didn't know those adapters existed.

 

[forcefed5pt0]

didnt have to change the harness for the pro-m, plugged right in to the stocket, the kenne bell(lightning) had to

 

[P.S.I.cho]

thats strange my pro-m has an adapter but maybe because mine is a blow through setup? or different style sensor im not sure

 

[BlackMachDown]

not sure if you went ahead or anything, but im thinking about gearheads for when and if i get my car together like yours