Should I supercharge my car?

[hottwheels04]

definately need supporting mods whether it be FMU/BTM or injectors/maf/pump/tune.

depends on your budget. if budget minded grab some PI cams and a PI manifold, those 2 mods ALONE on a boosted nonPI will give you another 50whp or more. definately the best bang for buck after the blower.

dont worry about dyno numbers, honestly, putting down 175-185 stock through the auto, bolting on the vortech out the box will give you ATLEAST 260 which is 90WHP gain. how can ANYBODY complain about that??? i've seen 260whp cars go mid 8s in the 1/8th mile with stock converter and trans, you aint getting any better than a 9.4 bone stock through the auto.

i dont have any experience with ATI/procharger, but from what i see they are right there with vortech in performance, but reliability isnt proven like vortech. the paxton NOVI is probably the best street blower out. vortech is proven to perform and be VERY reliable. cant go wrong with the paxton or vortech, vortech is a good bit cheaper so obviously its more popular.

yes its a good gain but kinda embarssing in todays performance world, 260rwhp in a supercharged v8 gt and a new 2011 v6 bone stock all motor 3.7 liter puts down 250-270rwhp lol and its alot of money to have to do a blower and then have to replace the stock motor if it goes because of boost, thats why I stopped my plans on doing a blower on my Im worried off it going boom under boost :sad5:

 

[hottwheels04]

thanks everyone. sorry for so many questions im new to the forced induction scene. so if i do the additional mods with the vortech and i hit the 350whp then would that be pretty quick versus many other cars? I don't want to be the fastest in town but if some turbo ricer pulls up flexing his pea shooters or something similar i want to be able to put them in their place because it would be pretty embarrasing having a forced induction car and getting beat by something N/A or a ricer

yeah make sure you just get a safe tune, good timing,do fuel injectors a pump and bolt ons so its runing good and you make decent power just dont run to much boost you dont want to run high boost on a otherwise stock motor gl!

 

[SBSVT]

I want to avoid a full PI swap because it's a lot of work and since i'll be in the army soon I wont have much free time to work on my car a lot. If i go with the forced induction i'll probly have to get someone to install it for me just because of i probly wont have the time to fool with it. I've heard a pi swap on a non-pi engine with forced induction on top of that is bad news for the internals of the non-pi is that true?

 

[blown98gt]

where did you go to basic at? and whats your mos? also this isn't even a real question, SUPERCHARGE IT hands down make the power, obviously i wouldn't go over 10 lbs of boost but you can pick up a used vortech kit cheap. don't go over 10lbs without built block but you should also get a tune. I'm a 13F Active duty, but any questions about superchargers or what to buy just message me i can pretty much answer all your questions and whatever i can't answer i can find out for you. I wrote a full page on Superchargers and also on Blow-thru vs draw-thru i'd recommend reading these so you can understand the way the supercharger works.

http://sn95forums.com/index.php/topic,41407.msg700917.html#msg700917 ( i know it's a bit long just read the part about vortech, procharger, and kb those are basically your options or best options. Vortech will be the cheapest)

http://sn95forums.com/index.php/topic,37141.0.html (Blow-thru vs Draw-thru MAF)

Hope this helps you some

 

[SBSVT]

i have not left yet. i've already enlisted and im waiting to ship. my ship date is in a couple months on june 2 2010. i will go to basic at ft leonard wood missouri then ait at ft hauchuca arizona and my mos is 35m human intelligence collector (interrogator). i just dont know if i want to supercharge it since its a lot of work for not a whole lot compared to the new cars, i mean because one of the recruiters in my recruiters office had an svt focus that had a turbo and he showed me his dyno sheet and he was hitting 300hp from the little 4 banger. the mazdaspeed3 has 263hp stock but drop only $2600 in it and make it a stage 3 and you can hit 320+ at the wheels. i'm just all confused on what to do. i kind of want that new mazdaspeed3 after basic because ill be able to afford it plus i qualify for ford a-plan and since mazda and ford are partners the mazda salesman told me that mazda will honor it under their s-plan or something like that, plus i may have to sell the stang since my fiance is expecting. i'm so lost on what to do she dont care if i keep it and supercharge it of if i get the speed3 shit i could even do both if i wanted. i just need some help on decision making

 

[got5.0]

Well, if you're looking at a new car, why don't you just buy a terminator or something... its the same price for a car that can make nasty power with a pulley....

 

[SBSVT]

i just wont have the time for a major build between the army and a baby on the way. i dont want tremendous power neither i just want something that will put most in their place when they try to screw with me at red lights or on the interstate. i also want something quick on back roads because thats what i like the most is hitting curvy roads plus since my car is lowered in eibach springs and kyb shocks it seems to handle preety good at least compared to my old '95 probe i used to have. i amsolutely enjoy my sn95 but im lost on what to do.

 

[DropTopPony]

Another option is find a low mile used PI engine and swap that in. Isn't any more difficult then a PI Intake/Head swap and that gets you all the upgraded parts and boost friendly compression ratio. Then you can add the Vortec to that when you can afford it and easily be in the 350-400rwhp zone.

 

[blown98gt]

don't get a fockus or a mazda3 you will never be happy with a 4 banger.. v8 is all there is and once you go v8 you can't just go back

 

[SBSVT]

i dont want a gay focus but that mazdaspeed3 can put down some pretty good numbers and i like the mazdaspeed3. what is i do the s-trim and injectors and all that other bag of goodies and throw some 3.73s in the rear then what kind of car would i be dealing with

 

[blown98gt]

400 hp car that can move.. you can pick up a package deal usually on either ebay or mustang forums.. 42lb injectors, s-trim, and maybe a vortech inline pump would be more than enough or you can just put a 255lph pump in the tank and just roll with that.. you'd need a tuner also but since you're not doing anything real serious maybe 10lbs of boost a mail order tune would be sufficient

 

[SBSVT]

how much money is the t-trim vortech vs. the s-trim? According to vortech's website the blower in the link below will get me to 323hp but the regular basic one will only get me to 290hp. with new injectors, maf, fuel pump, and a tune what would i be hitting at the wheels with each blower?

 

[blown98gt]

you can achieve the same hp with each blower it's just that the t-trim would use less boost to achieve say 400 hp. it's like comparing a p1sc to a d1sc. with the same blower pulley on a d1sc as a p1sc the d1sc makes more power and more boost usually 2-3lbs of boost more. you can hit 400 hp safely with either the t/s trim blower. the t-trim will cost you more because it can make more power, but if your goal is say 400 hp, and you don't want too much more over that then i'd just stay with the s-trim. a 3.12 pulley on a s-trim will put it at around 50,000 rpms out of 52,000 rpms but a 3.12 pulley on a t-trim will put the blower at around 48,000 rpms out of 54,000 (blower impeller speed that is)

 

[SBSVT]

so what if i get the cheaper one thats non intercolled and that only puts me at 290hp then i do the injectors, maf, fuel pump, and a tune then around what hp would i hit

 

[Lee12609]

why dont you tell us a goal and we'll tell you where to go from there......

its impossible to predict what a combo will get you every car is different, best is an educated guess.

 

[SBSVT]

my goal is 350hp. in my oinion is that there is not much that can keep up with that. if the new stang gt with 315hp can out perform the new camaro with 400+ then i think with 350hp i should be able to put those rich bastards in their place at the red lights

 

[SBSVT]

i want to hit around 350hp. i feel that with that much power is enough to out pwerform a vast majority of cars on the road today. if the new stang gt with 315hp can out perform the new 400+ camaro then i think mine car with 350hp will the the same job easier. i also feel that with 350hp i can put most people in their place when they screw with me on the interstate of red lights especially the ricers and those rich bastards with the new camaros

 

[SBSVT]

whoops didnt mean to put basically the same thing up i didnt realize it made another page so i was like WTF where did my post go so i re-did it but i see now

 

[blown98gt]

s-trim, 42lb injectors, 90mm lightning maf, and a 255lph in tank pump, and a tuner of course. The non intercooled unit wont be an issue since 350-400 hp it's not as big of a deal as those trying to hit 500+ hp range, i'd say that around 10lbs will put you about 350ish maybe closer to 400 with a good tune.

 

[SBSVT]

so even with the vortech unit that only hits 290 from stock i could still hit 350 with the mods you listed