switch based ignition help

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I was curious as to if anyone had the wiring diagram for the stock 94 gt so I could wire up a switch based solution to my busted ignition.

Obviously I would need an on/off for power and a momentary on for the start.

Just need a diagram.

Easy button anyone?
 

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Just go to the JY and get an ignition switch, I wouldn't monkey around with that wiring. There's quite a bit there and it would be easy to mess it up beyond going back.

How much is a new one?
 

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if its just the switch we are talking about a $20 piece and 10 mins to replace it. Take a lot more time to do the wiring.
 
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Then what will I do with this giant red "defcon 6" button?

This is merely for fun plus I wont have to hassle with any keys.

And thanks for the haynes/chilton headsup!
 

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ah ok if you just want a push to start that is not a big deal. I don't think the manuals will have the wire colors that you would need. I have some books that give me wire colors but honestly they are right maybe 50% of the time on old fords as I have found that a lot of manuals have issued with wire colors on 90 fords. If I were to give you those colors you would need to test each of them before you connect to them, which you should always do anyway. With this being the case honestly looking at your signon if you have a meter you would be better off just going in with the meter to identify each wire while ensuring they are good. I can walk you through the testing phase for what to look for if you know how to use a meter. You will probably need 3 switches though as there is actually two different types of ignition switches in the car. A "TRUE" ignition means that its off with the key off, on with the key on AND it is also on while the starter is cranking. This is for things like your fuel pump, ecu and other necessary items that are needed while the motor is craking/starting. A regular ignition will turn off while its cranking so things like the radio/heater/ac that are not needed are not on to save current for the starter.

So with that being said if you were to go down and find the ignition hrns from the switch you can find all the wires you need. Get a piece of paper and stab each wire in the hrns and write down its color and if its live while cranking(true or regular ignition). Once you have those wires tagged its simply a matter of making your switches do the same thing to copy the ignition switch. Its not as bad as you think but you will need to make sure the switches can handle a good amount of current through them or you will need to wire in some relays. I can walk you through that if we need to but again if you get high-current handling switches you would not need them.
 
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ah ok if you just want a push to start that is not a big deal. I don't think the manuals will have the wire colors that you would need. I have some books that give me wire colors but honestly they are right maybe 50% of the time on old fords as I have found that a lot of manuals have issued with wire colors on 90 fords. If I were to give you those colors you would need to test each of them before you connect to them, which you should always do anyway. With this being the case honestly looking at your signon if you have a meter you would be better off just going in with the meter to identify each wire while ensuring they are good. I can walk you through the testing phase for what to look for if you know how to use a meter. You will probably need 3 switches though as there is actually two different types of ignition switches in the car. A "TRUE" ignition means that its off with the key off, on with the key on AND it is also on while the starter is cranking. This is for things like your fuel pump, ecu and other necessary items that are needed while the motor is craking/starting. A regular ignition will turn off while its cranking so things like the radio/heater/ac that are not needed are not on to save current for the starter.

So with that being said if you were to go down and find the ignition hrns from the switch you can find all the wires you need. Get a piece of paper and stab each wire in the hrns and write down its color and if its live while cranking(true or regular ignition). Once you have those wires tagged its simply a matter of making your switches do the same thing to copy the ignition switch. Its not as bad as you think but you will need to make sure the switches can handle a good amount of current through them or you will need to wire in some relays. I can walk you through that if we need to but again if you get high-current handling switches you would not need them.

Much of that isnt an issue as far as a multim and testing.

I figured it would just knock a portion of the legwork out of the way with a diagram.

If I run into any problems though,I will come back here.i can make a diagram with pics. maybe a small writeup as I go along.
 

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When are you doing this? If it isn't tonight I might be able to dig up a wiring color code in a day or so but as I said before you NEED to test EVERY wire prior to hooking up to it. In the install world it is rule #2 right after you must fuse all power wires 12" from the battery but on a 90 ford like I said its basically rule #1-b
 
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When are you doing this? If it isn't tonight I might be able to dig up a wiring color code in a day or so but as I said before you NEED to test EVERY wire prior to hooking up to it. In the install world it is rule #2 right after you must fuse all power wires 12" from the battery but on a 90 ford like I said its basically rule #1-b

2-2 1/2 hours from now I will post up readings.

Lmk if there is anything specific you want me to post up.
 

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