I just got back from looking at the red LS. Man what a car!!! It's so comfortable and easy to drive. I felt completely at home in the drivers seat. The verdict is the price they gave me was much more then the internet price they have up ($14,300). The payments came to $329/month for 60 months with a 11.5% rate and $0 down. This is a little more then I want to spend so I'm gonna sit on it for a couple days. If they come down to the internet price of $12,900 out the door and get my monthly around $275 then I'm all in! I don't think this deal is out of the question, it'll take a little talking to get them down. I feel they'll budge (hopefully lol).