I know its lt's or don't, but i already got em they were cheap, and i know people will still bash. Anyway whos installed shorties and how did you go about doing it. I've been told 2 ways, jacking the motor up 2inch, or dropping k member. I'd rather not drop the k member so has anyone here done it with just jacking the motor up? They are bbk's btw. Has anyone ever heard that the bbk shorty headers are poor quality?