its all preference. do most 5.0 guys hate it, yeah, but thats why there are many other companies out there for people to choose from. i mean i have slp on mine, wanted somethsng that sounded different and i got it. i have an o/r x and yeah it is loud. do i think it sounds bad, not really. my only complaint is the popping upon deceleration. I swapped in my bassani catted x yesterday because im bored while laid off, and have been driving all day and it is a night and day difference. the car sounds almost stock with the catted x. to me it sounds like a 3 valve 05+ i will try and get a sound clip of it tomorrow