my 3.8

[atlanticblue98]

yeah but neither wheel spun even though one was on ice and he was backing up a hill and Yeah I had already been thinking about putting gears and a posi or limited slip in

it should spin the right side

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wow this was a long time ago

 

[bonestock3.8DTH]

I know It should spin the right I may only be 15 but I know alot about cars and the right is even on the ice

 

[atlanticblue98]

I know It should spin the right I may only be 15 but I know alot about cars and the right is even on the ice

what does it do? just accelerate?

 

[bonestock3.8DTH]

I dont know he pulled it up by the curb and since my brothers truck was in the way he had to back it up and one of the wheels was on the ice the hole time and it didnt spin and we live on a fairly steep hill and it just accelerates

 

[kintek]

If you are going in reverse most of the time they will not spin one tire at all. Mine never has spun them in reverse, but I wouldnt do it anyways cause once its hops its horrible.

I am waiting to get mine dyno'd soon. I just got done rebuilding the stock 3.8 from ground up. Its basically all stock for the motor cept for the pistons they are hypereutectic. Stock size but lighter and I put a remand crank, new timing gears/chain, reused the old cam, and piston rods were good still. Put another set of heads on it, should be stock, but they were gone through by the guy I had put my short block togehter and I did the rest. I also put NGK radium spark plugs and new wires. also has a Accel ingition coil on there too.

Toss on an aluminum drive shaft from ford racing and 3.27 gears with T-lok. Plus it has a all new cooling system from the radiator to the heater core. I picked up a Canton cooling resevoir for it. Had to pull the bracket out a bit so it would fit on it properly.

I still have to fire it up for the first time since I pulled it apart over a year ago. I just need to wait for this snow to leave the roads and I'll start her up and drive down the road a ways for once.

There are some ideas you can do to yours too. I still need to get a cold air. I got my other 3.8 to build now, but its not going to be stock at all for the motor.
I spent a good grand on the complete rebuild for the red stang I bought for 600 bucks with blown heads.

 

[bonestock3.8DTH]

alright thanks man and your Mustang looks good

 

[jthorn9]

Well if you plan on doing all of that to your sixer, then you're looking at a little more money than your average Joe. Like I said, be wise in this decision, if you decide to mod your six, be damn sure it's a car you plan on keeping, cause you will never get the money back out of it when trying to get a GT or Cobra. A ported split port intake swap with a mild cam would add a decent bit of power putting you near par with a stock 99-04 GT, however it isn't a cheap mod, and that's assuming you can install the stuff yourself. Engine work to me isn't hard, but for others it doesn't come so easy. Also, if you're going that far, why not get an M-112 adapter plate, and buy an M-112 supercharger and get even more power out of the car. I like twin screw designs much more than roots or centrifugal, however, for the price of the M-112 you can make modest boost with the thing and make the car much more fun to drive, cause I promise you, you will not be happy with the 200-220 or so rwhp you'll be making with just a ported split port swap w/mild cam. The M-112 boost 8 psi stock, and will add approx 10 rwhp per PSI so you'll be looking at somewhere between 270-300 rwhp with the M-112 on top of what I had spoke about (depends on port and cam choice). At that point you'll probably be relatively happy, however you'll need to upgrade your internals if you wish to run more boost to make more power. The M-112 will easily support up to 15lbs of boost, but after that I believe even that unit needs to be modified, which at that point I'd dump it and get a real supercharger like a Whipple or Kenne Bell.

 

[atlanticblue98]

Well if you plan on doing all of that to your sixer, then you're looking at a little more money than your average Joe. Like I said, be wise in this decision, if you decide to mod your six, be damn sure it's a car you plan on keeping, cause you will never get the money back out of it when trying to get a GT or Cobra. A ported split port intake swap with a mild cam would add a decent bit of power putting you near par with a stock 99-04 GT, however it isn't a cheap mod, and that's assuming you can install the stuff yourself. Engine work to me isn't hard, but for others it doesn't come so easy. Also, if you're going that far, why not get an M-112 adapter plate, and buy an M-112 supercharger and get even more power out of the car. I like twin screw designs much more than roots or centrifugal, however, for the price of the M-112 you can make modest boost with the thing and make the car much more fun to drive, cause I promise you, you will not be happy with the 200-220 or so rwhp you'll be making with just a ported split port swap w/mild cam. The M-112 boost 8 psi stock, and will add approx 10 rwhp per PSI so you'll be looking at somewhere between 270-300 rwhp with the M-112 on top of what I had spoke about (depends on port and cam choice). At that point you'll probably be relatively happy, however you'll need to upgrade your internals if you wish to run more boost to make more power. The M-112 will easily support up to 15lbs of boost, but after that I believe even that unit needs to be modified, which at that point I'd dump it and get a real supercharger like a Whipple or Kenne Bell.

Chaoticdismay (Rico) on 3.8mustang.com made 330rwhp with a very small cam, longtubes, and a M112 set at only 7psi.
stock heads too.

 

[bonestock3.8DTH]

what I was going to do was I was going to buy a 4.2 block and build it up cause I have saved up money over the years and Ive got a bout twelve hundered dollars in my bank and I was going to use that to build my engine and should I use the m112 or the m90 cause I read about the m90 on here and it said with all the other stuff that it would make about 270 to the wheels and I wouldnt mind 270 but I want like 300 330 at the wheels. And when I build that block I was going to check ou forged internals a bigger crank maybe and SC heads and a mild cam. Thats what I was thinking What should I do?

 

[atlanticblue98]

what I was going to do was I was going to buy a 4.2 block and build it up cause I have saved up money over the years and Ive got a bout twelve hundered dollars in my bank and I was going to use that to build my engine and should I use the m112 or the m90 cause I read about the m90 on here and it said with all the other stuff that it would make about 270 to the wheels and I wouldnt mind 270 but I want like 300 330 at the wheels. And when I build that block I was going to check ou forged internals a bigger crank maybe and SC heads and a mild cam. Thats what I was thinking What should I do?

getting a 4.2 block wouldnt have any advantages over a 3.8 block if you plan on changing out the internals.

just grab a 3.8 block use a 4.2 Forged stroker kit, ported 99-04 splitport heads, cam, and your choice of a power adder (cant use a m90 with the splitport heads though)

although the M112 is cool and all, but i would get a Procharger because they come with intercoolers. Vortech dont, but you can make a custom intercooler system.

 

[bonestock3.8DTH]

how much would that be do you think? and would it be cheaper to get an intercooler and an m112 then a procharger?

 

[atlanticblue98]

how much would that be do you think? and would it be cheaper to get an intercooler and an m112 then a procharger?

they havent found a way to intercool a m112 for a v6 yet. the guy who makes the kit is working on a way last time i checked.

the only was to cool a m112 on a V6 right now is using meth or nitrous

 

[bonestock3.8DTH]

oh great fun..So I shouldnt go with the m90? cause from what I read from the 94-98 eaton swap info thing that I could do the m90 and get good horse power. Cause runing a meth or nitrous cooling system would be to much money for a daily driver. So I should just go ahead and keep my 3.8 then?

 

[atlanticblue98]

oh great fun..So I shouldnt go with the m90? cause from what I read from the 94-98 eaton swap info thing that I could do the m90 and get good horse power. Cause runing a meth or nitrous cooling system would be to much money for a daily driver. So I should just go ahead and keep my 3.8 then?

to run the m90, you have to keep the singleport heads that come on our 94-98's and some say that is a disadvantage because they flow worse than 99-04 heads. but Shine1stang has proved that singleports can make great power. to get some decent number from a m90, you'd need to port and polish you current heads, or some spares from a junkyard. get a cam, smaller pulley, better intercooler. you'd make around 300hp that way. which is perfectly safe for the stock engine if it is in good condition.

get a compression test done on your engine to see if it is good condition, you'll want the compression of all 6 cylinders to be around the same, rather than just high numbers

checkout Roadhawg's V6, his is a great example of what a m90 v6 can do. but he has a MPX which is a upgraded version of the M90.

he made 343rwhp with this setup

SC Block 30 over
Standard 4.2 Crankshaft
6.125 SCAT H-beam rods
8.5 Ross Forged Pistons
Total Seal Rings
Cam 218/224 .520" lift 112 LSA, 4 deg adv
MPX 25%OD with uncoated rotors
SC heads (home ported)
60lb injectors
90mm Lightning Maf
85mm Throttlebody
Kenewagner Double IC
Long tube headers
Off-road H-pipe
2.5 Mach1 Catback
1994 Supercoupe 4R70W
8.8 with Tloc and 3.73

 

[bonestock3.8DTH]

alright thanks man thats what Im thinking about doing and geting supercoupe heads and porting and polishing those instead of the ones on the my car because in the m90 swap info it says that they do flow better

 

[dave1989]

check out super six motorsports and a handheld would make a difference since you got an auto oh and i had a short belt on mine 2 it ran down the road pretty good for a v6

 

[bonestock3.8DTH]

Alright sweet thanks man I will but Ive got a few years before I can do anything so Im just gonna buy the whole engine out of a super coupe and rebuild it and do some other stuff to it