New Track times!

[nemoxii]

Well just got back from another day at the track, and my first trip since my full PI head swap. I'm very happy, the heads knocked a full second off my time. Best time was a 15 Flat at 93 mph. Still working on my launches, and after 6 good runs today they've come a long way, my last three runs I ran consistant 15.08s. Anyway, I can really tell my current shift points are whats killing my top end. The damn thing leasurly shifts into third way after my power band, so I know I can knock a full 2 tenths off my time with a good tune. Heres the time slip from my best run. Next we'll have to see what getting rid of that stock mid pipe and a good set of gears will do. I'm in the right lane on the slip.

-Adam

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[Passenger]

Right lane ran [email protected], I thought you ran 14 flats? :dunno:

 

[Red96GT]

What's your elevation?

 

[nemoxii]

14 flats? I've never made that claim in my life, lol. Last time I was at the track I ran a best of 15.99@87mph. Seeing as that was my first time ever, then not sure where ya got 14s. As for my elevation, I havent a clue. I'm in Oklahoma, so not that high.

 

[Passenger]

OH! never mind. Where you said best time was 15 flat at 93, I thought that was your previous best, haha. I'm a tard, please overlook me.

 

[nemoxii]

lol, np

 

[voidfinger]

man you gotta do something with that 60 foot... my auto vert is hitting 2.1 and its mostly stock exept for the pi intake. Are you dumping the clutch off the line and spinning threw the 6o ft mark? Thats the only thing i can think... I'm not trying to down you or anything but the pi swap has gotten cars into the high 13's with just the pi stuff. What gears are you running and def. do a mid pipe. Again i'm not dissing because i was disapointed in my car the first time i went to a 1/4 mile track but i don't think a 14.6 was that bad now.

 

[justinschmidt1]

why are you running 15.0 at 93 in a pi swapped car?


or better yet

why a 16.0 stock?

why so slow?

 

[AaRoN]

:thumb:

 

[Black97GT]

would have expected faster myself...but definitely an improvement from stock..which was also slower than normal.

Could be your elevation...not sure..??

 

[carramrod98]

great idea doing the full pi swap. I hope someone out there got a great deal on your old pi cams :TY:

 

[nemoxii]

great idea doing the full pi swap. I hope someone out there got a great deal on your old pi cams :TY:

Bet someone did...lol, oh wait.

man you gotta do something with that 60 foot... my auto vert is hitting 2.1 and its mostly stock exept for the pi intake. Are you dumping the clutch off the line and spinning threw the 6o ft mark? Thats the only thing i can think... I'm not trying to down you or anything but the pi swap has gotten cars into the high 13's with just the pi stuff. What gears are you running and def. do a mid pipe. Again i'm not dissing because i was disapointed in my car the first time i went to a 1/4 mile track but i don't think a 14.6 was that bad now.

Yeah, I'm gonna try and get it back up on dyno next weekend just to see what I'm putting at the wheels. I really honestly think my tranny is whats killing me. The thing is shifting like an old lady. I'm running stock gears (3.08:1 with the limited slip) so gears would help a bit. I think a good tune, including shift points/firmness would do a world of good, that or just a full tranny swap. Another thing to keep in mind on my 60 foot time is I'm launching from idle most the time. Working on loading it before launch, but its a bit hard than it seems...for me atleast.

What do stock '99+ GTs run? I doubt its near the high 13s. I very much doubt just a PI swap getting anyone into the high 13s. Just a guesstimation, but it'll take our car approx 250rwhp to run in the high 13s. Assuming my cars is running correctly (which it seems to be) I should have slightly more HP than a stock PI car (based on the increase in CR). They are rated at 260 fwhp, so lets call it in a automatic with a 15% loss to the wheels 221 rwhp. That would put me about the same. My car weighed in at the track at 3380 w/out me in it. Honesty don't see why 15.007 is such a horrible time, that seems about right to me. I'm still learning here, so if there are flaws in my math, please educate me. 14.6 is a great time Void, dont know what your doing right, but keep doing it. A good tune, like I said, will open up alot of potential.

 

[Black97GT]

I was just saying from personal experience and what I have seen..
My car stock...all NPI with a shifter I managed a 14.7@95
haven't run it with my current mods yet.

and 99+ GT's have run high 13's bone stock...it is even more common for our cars with full PI swaps to run high 13's

There is someone on here with a purple stang with a full pi swap running 13's.

Like you said though..it could be your tranny.

 

[Tornbetween2]

Well i dont think it is that good of times i ran a 15 flat or 15.2 or something between there. and all i have done is hpipe and cat back. stock air filter. so with a pi swap this winter i was hoping to get to a 14.1 or 14.2 in the spring (before the blower goes on).

also i am not knocking you i just think it should be lower. but you really REALLY need gears

 

[voidfinger]

great idea doing the full pi swap. I hope someone out there got a great deal on your old pi cams :TY:

Bet someone did...lol, oh wait.

man you gotta do something with that 60 foot... my auto vert is hitting 2.1 and its mostly stock exept for the pi intake. Are you dumping the clutch off the line and spinning threw the 6o ft mark? Thats the only thing i can think... I'm not trying to down you or anything but the pi swap has gotten cars into the high 13's with just the pi stuff. What gears are you running and def. do a mid pipe. Again i'm not dissing because i was disapointed in my car the first time i went to a 1/4 mile track but i don't think a 14.6 was that bad now.

Yeah, I'm gonna try and get it back up on dyno next weekend just to see what I'm putting at the wheels. I really honestly think my tranny is whats killing me. The thing is shifting like an old lady. I'm running stock gears (3.08:1 with the limited slip) so gears would help a bit. I think a good tune, including shift points/firmness would do a world of good, that or just a full tranny swap. Another thing to keep in mind on my 60 foot time is I'm launching from idle most the time. Working on loading it before launch, but its a bit hard than it seems...for me atleast.

What do stock '99+ GTs run? I doubt its near the high 13s. I very much doubt just a PI swap getting anyone into the high 13s. Just a guesstimation, but it'll take our car approx 250rwhp to run in the high 13s. Assuming my cars is running correctly (which it seems to be) I should have slightly more HP than a stock PI car (based on the increase in CR). They are rated at 260 fwhp, so lets call it in a automatic with a 15% loss to the wheels 221 rwhp. That would put me about the same. My car weighed in at the track at 3380 w/out me in it. Honesty don't see why 15.007 is such a horrible time, that seems about right to me. I'm still learning here, so if there are flaws in my math, please educate me. 14.6 is a great time Void, dont know what your doing right, but keep doing it. A good tune, like I said, will open up alot of potential.

I thought our cars had 3.27 gear in them? Who knows... I'm also launching from idle b/c the car breaks loose if i don't... shitty tires and all. I don't know dude, so you have an auto right? Have you tried heating your tires? smoken them a little to get them hot with new rubber down? wonder what it could be... so many possobilities

 

[Whistler98]

Yeah I would start with the trans. Then get some gears. I know I went 14.8 first time to the track and my buddie went 14.7 in my sisters 96gt. Hey have you guys seen this vid yet. Stock 04 motor with boltons and 4.10s going 12.7. I was pretty impressed with that.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/3460bb46-0bb9-47d1-9a74-9a4c01831735.htm

 

[cobraclone]

why are you running 15.0 at 93 in a pi swapped car?


or better yet

why a 16.0 stock?

why so slow?

asked myself the same . my first time at track i did 15.0 at 93 too with 2.3 60 footer on crapy track. then y went to better one and did a 14.5 at 96 with 2.0 60ft . and that is my best run so far, and thats on a NPI with bolt ons

 

[GTnightrider]

our cars are supposed to run a 14.9 stock and i have the full pi swap with full exhaust and i ran a 13.8 with a burnt clutch and a F***** tranny that im getting put in this week, not trying to diss but idk if not high 13's you should be 14.1-3 at least

 

[voidfinger]

Yeah I would start with the trans. Then get some gears. I know I went 14.8 first time to the track and my buddie went 14.7 in my sisters 96gt. Hey have you guys seen this vid yet. Stock 04 motor with boltons and 4.10s going 12.7. I was pretty impressed with that.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/3460bb46-0bb9-47d1-9a74-9a4c01831735.htm

don't forget the dude with the thunderbird on here went in the low 12's with a full weight tbird with ported bullet, npi heads "ported", and comp 270's i think and a stall. So yea its totally possible... was this car an auto or a 5 speed.

 

[nemoxii]

Just for comparisons sake, same day at the same track, running in the lane next to me, a buddy of mine in a camaro with a proven 260 rwhp(exact same dyno I was on) ran a best of 13.6 @ 101. Now way on this earth will a stock PI GT come close to that. So with that said, my numbers are completely on par. Why the differance in your numbers to my numbers? well I have a few theorys there. Talking with people who run this track alot say is a pretty crappy track, and that if I were to run my car under the exact same conditions down at a better track in texas I'd probably pick up a good half a second. So I don't think you guys are wrong, I just think I'm running strong for where I'm at, especially if you compair me to a car with a proven 260 RWhp. A good tune and some tranny work would have easily seen me to 14.5 - 14.8, so take half a sec off that and bam, were where you guys say I 'should' be. Just some thoughts after talking with people here. Thoughts?

-Adam