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[Jrgunn5150]

Me too, I would be about 5k ahead of the game if I skipped all else and went straight for a 4v. Swing for the fence man!

 

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Vortech T-Trim. Bitches

 

[DropTopPony]

A blown 2V is more then enough for any street driven car so why waste the time and money going to a 4V when you could slap a blower on what you have and be @ 375-400rwhp. Then when you save up some more money you get your heads done and throw in some blower cams...that will push you to the 450-500rwhp area and if you want more you get a forged shortblock and up the boost.

I love the 4V's but see no use in going that route if you have already invested in a PI engine etc...unless you need to make 1000+rwhp then a 2V is just as easy to get to 400+ rwhp with a blower as a 4V.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

My combo on 4v would make for much bigger smiles for me, and a river of tears from other's though uttahere:

 

[amoosenamedhank]

A blown 2V is more then enough for any street driven car so why waste the time and money going to a 4V when you could slap a blower on what you have and be @ 375-400rwhp. Then when you save up some more money you get your heads done and throw in some blower cams...that will push you to the 450-500rwhp area and if you want more you get a forged shortblock and up the boost.

I love the 4V's but see no use in going that route if you have already invested in a PI engine etc...unless you need to make 1000+rwhp then a 2V is just as easy to get to 400+ rwhp with a blower as a 4V.

Because a 500rwhp 4v is a lot more steetable then a 50rwhp 2v. It doesn't take a whole lot to get a 4v to make 500. I 2v you have to start really going all out. Then you have some big lumpy machine that isn't just a "fun" cruise around anymore. 4v's can make the power with much more composure. Plus he also said he wanted it to be a show car, and a 4v looks a lot better then a 2v.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Well i agree the 4v is easier, but I have 500 hhp and drive my car everyday. It shakes a bit at idle, uses a little more gas around town, requires a bit more gas to get off the line, but hardly a big lumpy machine that isn't fun anymore. All it takes is a quick 1-2-3 and I'm all smiles again after a shitty day.

 

[DropTopPony]

A blown 2V is more then enough for any street driven car so why waste the time and money going to a 4V when you could slap a blower on what you have and be @ 375-400rwhp. Then when you save up some more money you get your heads done and throw in some blower cams...that will push you to the 450-500rwhp area and if you want more you get a forged shortblock and up the boost.

I love the 4V's but see no use in going that route if you have already invested in a PI engine etc...unless you need to make 1000+rwhp then a 2V is just as easy to get to 400+ rwhp with a blower as a 4V.

Because a 500rwhp 4v is a lot more steetable then a 50rwhp 2v. It doesn't take a whole lot to get a 4v to make 500. I 2v you have to start really going all out. Then you have some big lumpy machine that isn't just a "fun" cruise around anymore. 4v's can make the power with much more composure. Plus he also said he wanted it to be a show car, and a 4v looks a lot better then a 2v.

All of what you said is true if you were talking about 700rwhp levels but @ 500rwhp levels the 2V is just as easy to get to as a 4V...just add more boost as both engines use the same shortblocks basically and same fuel system so those upgrades would be done on both.
500rwhp 2V's are not radical unstreatable lumpy cars unless you want them to be. Blower cams are not very aggressive and a 2V will make 500rwhp with stock heads and blower cams with about 14 psi boost....that doesn't seem like a unstreetable combo to me!
If you want to get a hard on for a 4V then thats a different conversation but saying making power on a blown 2V is much harder then a 4V is BS up to about 600+rwhp...then the 4V will naturally make power easier because of the flow of the heads.

If you don't believe me look at Modular Powerhouses comparison test of a 2V with ported heads and a 4V both running upwards of 20 psi through a KB and the 2V bests the 4V up and over 500rwhp and beats it by a solid 50hp. Tim built his business and reputation on the research he did and by proving the 2V was just as potent as the 4V when boosted up to a certain level.

 

[voidfinger]

A blown 2V is more then enough for any street driven car so why waste the time and money going to a 4V when you could slap a blower on what you have and be @ 375-400rwhp. Then when you save up some more money you get your heads done and throw in some blower cams...that will push you to the 450-500rwhp area and if you want more you get a forged shortblock and up the boost.

I love the 4V's but see no use in going that route if you have already invested in a PI engine etc...unless you need to make 1000+rwhp then a 2V is just as easy to get to 400+ rwhp with a blower as a 4V.

Because a 500rwhp 4v is a lot more steetable then a 50rwhp 2v. It doesn't take a whole lot to get a 4v to make 500. I 2v you have to start really going all out. Then you have some big lumpy machine that isn't just a "fun" cruise around anymore. 4v's can make the power with much more composure. Plus he also said he wanted it to be a show car, and a 4v looks a lot better then a 2v.

All of what you said is true if you were talking about 700rwhp levels but @ 500rwhp levels the 2V is just as easy to get to as a 4V...just add more boost as both engines use the same shortblocks basically and same fuel system so those upgrades would be done on both.
500rwhp 2V's are not radical unstreatable lumpy cars unless you want them to be. Blower cams are not very aggressive and a 2V will make 500rwhp with stock heads and blower cams with about 14 psi boost....that doesn't seem like a unstreetable combo to me!
If you want to get a hard on for a 4V then thats a different conversation but saying making power on a blown 2V is much harder then a 4V is BS up to about 600+rwhp...then the 4V will naturally make power easier because of the flow of the heads.

If you don't believe me look at Modular Powerhouses comparison test of a 2V with ported heads and a 4V both running upwards of 20 psi through a KB and the 2V bests the 4V up and over 500rwhp and beats it by a solid 50hp. Tim built his business and reputation on the research he did and by proving the 2V was just as potent as the 4V when boosted up to a certain level.

yea, its about the same to get that level out the 2v and the 4v with FI... but N/A you could have a hard time upping the 2v rather than the 4v. Also, the most important factor is the power curves of the two different motors. That is what is sending me to the 4v rather than the 2v :thumb: