I looking to start buying parts for my pi swap for next winter. was wondering whats a good pi head for my 96 gt looking for a parts list with want i all need. i got some of an idea. but want to make sure. i know there is alot of post about it but jst want to do it the easy way and start a new thread
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Just got through with mine on my 96 I used windsor heads off a 99 but thats just what I got my hands on. I had to get the bolts for the top 4 timing chain cover bolts because the threads in the windsor heads are fatter so I would try to find romeo heads off a 01-04. besides that there isn't alot of difference between the the 2 except the amount of bolts in the valve cover. Just be sure to do it right and get new timing chains, tensioners, and guides! Pm me with any questions
duff daddy
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Just get any PI head, look for romeo (easiest by seeing cam cap style or vc bolt #) You can get ported or call up Nick @ Modular Head Shop, tell him I told you to call and he can get you a price for some with oe or a/m cams.
D3VST8R96GT
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i just bought some Romeo heads off ebay ...im waiting for my dad to get them and check them out ...there are some decent deals on ebay ...
just search pi heads
just search pi heads
reivaxtorres
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all you will need:
PI heads fully assembled w/cams (prefer Romeo, since all the parts just swap over)
FRPP Headswap kit (about $105-$115 from summit, jegs, LMR, etc). - this includes new bolts, exhaust gaskets, head gaskets, and dipstick tube
you dont need new chains or tensioners, but a lot of people recommend to change them. i had 130k miles when i did the swap, still using the stock chains/tensioners, have about 196k miles now.
get new chain guides (about $20 a piece froma autozone, about $10 bucks more from ford)
timing cover gaskets (all three) and the timing cover seal
valve cover gaskets (tho they are usually re-usable, the grommets are usually worn out and you need to buy the gaskets that come with the gommets to get them. have them look it up for a 96/97 crown victoria...for some reason the ones for our cars are the wrong ones wherever you look -- at least wherever i looked)
and thats about it i think. some RTV sealant, PI manifold, PI heater return tube (in the cylinder valley, below the intake manifold), and if possible get some shorty headers since now is the perfect time to do them to make them worth the while (when it comes to labor). you can get some used ones for cheap, i picked up my FRPP shorties used for $100shipped
PI heads fully assembled w/cams (prefer Romeo, since all the parts just swap over)
FRPP Headswap kit (about $105-$115 from summit, jegs, LMR, etc). - this includes new bolts, exhaust gaskets, head gaskets, and dipstick tube
you dont need new chains or tensioners, but a lot of people recommend to change them. i had 130k miles when i did the swap, still using the stock chains/tensioners, have about 196k miles now.
get new chain guides (about $20 a piece froma autozone, about $10 bucks more from ford)
timing cover gaskets (all three) and the timing cover seal
valve cover gaskets (tho they are usually re-usable, the grommets are usually worn out and you need to buy the gaskets that come with the gommets to get them. have them look it up for a 96/97 crown victoria...for some reason the ones for our cars are the wrong ones wherever you look -- at least wherever i looked)
and thats about it i think. some RTV sealant, PI manifold, PI heater return tube (in the cylinder valley, below the intake manifold), and if possible get some shorty headers since now is the perfect time to do them to make them worth the while (when it comes to labor). you can get some used ones for cheap, i picked up my FRPP shorties used for $100shipped
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oh, and you happen to get windsor heads, you will need, in addition to the above:
Windsor valve covers/gaskets
the upper 4 timing cover bolts from a windsor (as mentioned above, different size)
Windsor valve covers/gaskets
the upper 4 timing cover bolts from a windsor (as mentioned above, different size)
duff daddy
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used pi heads will work well and save money
duff daddy
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andshould do guides while your in there depending on mileage too
duff daddy
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for a few bucks a piece and the fact the head are already out,its a judgement call, i didnt feel like ripping it apart again if i had guide issues.
ive been reading about the 4vf swap i knw there is a alot modds avabile but i dont know ive did alot of research on my 2v. and i want to supercharge i hard the pi is not that good for it? it that true. what u guys think? i need opinions
duff daddy
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try again, in english. you confused the shit out of me.
Sorry for the typeos guys this damn computer is all kinds of messed up. i ment ive been reading up on the the 4v engine swap. But im also thinking that it would be fun doing the pi swap and building up my 2v. I read in one forum that the pi swap is that good with a supercharger do to 10:1 compression. Is the true? But there also alot more engine mods for the 4v. for about the same amount of money. So, i dont know which route to go with i needs some opinions and more info.
duff daddy
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I dont know where you got yoru facts that ther are more modifications for a 4v motor then a 2v or that 4v and 2v are close in price for aftermarket parts, but you have been mislead.
