Question about 4.2

[g36 monkey]

Hate to become a bother, but no one answered lol.

Does anyone have any transmission reccomendations. I already figure the rear end I am going to need a limited slip and an aluminum drive shaft and some beefy axles. But do you think I should just get a new stock trans or a new one altogether.
Once I have these things down, and I get some money, I can start the project and get to my clear goal.
Keep in mind this may take a couple years, but it will happen. Once I set my mind to something, it gets done ha.

 

[atlanticblue98]

Hate to become a bother, but no one answered lol.

Does anyone have any transmission reccomendations. I already figure the rear end I am going to need a limited slip and an aluminum drive shaft and some beefy axles. But do you think I should just get a new stock trans or a new one altogether.
Once I have these things down, and I get some money, I can start the project and get to my clear goal.
Keep in mind this may take a couple years, but it will happen. Once I set my mind to something, it gets done ha.

i'd just do a rebuild kit. they are planty of people with over 300hp still running stock T-5 transmissions. so a fresh rebuild should be fine for you. it is the only thing i can think of that wont cost over $1000

if you are willing to spend more money, i know someone who swapped in a TKO-500 transmission. i can get more details from him on how easy of a swap it is.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=3265

 

[hottwheels04]

if your gonna go through all the trouble just do a v8 swap,why build a n/a v6 ? ur gonna be alot happier if your gonna spend all the time and money for a motor / build n/a go v8 trust me goodluck!

 

[atlanticblue98]

if your gonna go through all the trouble just do a v8 swap,why build a n/a v6 ? ur gonna be alot happier if your gonna spend all the time and money for a motor / build n/a go v8 trust me goodluck!

building a V6 is much simpler than swapping a V8. these engines are completely drop in and have almost no wiring that need to be done. not to mention the 300lb difference between the two. you cant tell me you wouldnt want a mustang that weighed 300lbs less that a GT, but made the same power

let me ask you this, why'd you waste money and time on a bored 302? you would been happier with a 347

oh and G36 monkey, if you really want to stay N/A. you wont need Forged internals. just drop in a low mileage stock F-150 4.2 with the H/C/I of your choice.

 

[duff daddy]

are you basing your 300lb difference on an iron block or an aluminum block with forged crank, light weight rods and pistons, and a k member....

 

[atlanticblue98]

are you basing your 300lb difference on an iron block or an aluminum block with forged crank, light weight rods and pistons, and a k member....

3.8l Iron block to the 4.6L Iron block. complete engine. dry weight

4.6 SOHC Iron block: 529lbs

3.8l Pushrod Iron Block: 375lbs

so 154lbs dry weight difference
okay, a little exaggeration

oh, and the same "weight reductions" (Forged Crank, Rods, Pistons, and K-member) can be done to the V6 too.

 

[hottwheels04]

if your gonna go through all the trouble just do a v8 swap,why build a n/a v6 ? ur gonna be alot happier if your gonna spend all the time and money for a motor / build n/a go v8 trust me goodluck!

building a V6 is much simpler than swapping a V8. these engines are completely drop in and have almost no wiring that need to be done. not to mention the 300lb difference between the two. you cant tell me you wouldnt want a mustang that weighed 300lbs less that a GT, but made the same power

let me ask you this, why'd you waste money and time on a bored 302? you would been happier with a 347

oh and G36 monkey, if you really want to stay N/A. you wont need Forged internals. just drop in a low mileage stock F-150 4.2 with the H/C/I of your choice.

HAHA you think a n/a 3.8 or v6 is gonna make the same horsepower as a built v8 hahah u are funny? :angry7:



power to weight is 1 thing but,to justify having a n/a v6 because its 300lbs lighter is dumb, I can take 300lbs out of my car to, but who cares if you have the power to back it up weight only matters so much power to weight = ricer math most the time to justify a torqeless powerless motor



my car is only 3,200lbs I could careless about weight, If that was the case I would buy a 2,000lb import car..




why did i go with a 306? because I make the perfect rwhp and torque, Im making same horsepower as some guys with 347 strokers, I like the powerband of a 306 and less money into it.



that doesnt justify spending isane money on a v6 build and keep it n/a and a 302 h/c/i will outdyno it cost less and will smoke a n/a v6 car, hope its all worth it, staying v6 makes sense cause its drop in but ur funny if u think it will make same or more power and weight less then going n/a v8 in his car hahha :nono: :BangHead:



to each there own

 

[atlanticblue98]

if your gonna go through all the trouble just do a v8 swap,why build a n/a v6 ? ur gonna be alot happier if your gonna spend all the time and money for a motor / build n/a go v8 trust me goodluck!

building a V6 is much simpler than swapping a V8. these engines are completely drop in and have almost no wiring that need to be done. not to mention the 300lb difference between the two. you cant tell me you wouldnt want a mustang that weighed 300lbs less that a GT, but made the same power

let me ask you this, why'd you waste money and time on a bored 302? you would been happier with a 347

oh and G36 monkey, if you really want to stay N/A. you wont need Forged internals. just drop in a low mileage stock F-150 4.2 with the H/C/I of your choice.

HAHA you think a n/a 3.8 or v6 is gonna make the same horsepower as a built v8 hahah u are funny?



power to weight is 1 thing but,to justify having a n/a v6 because its 300lbs lighter is dumb, I can take 300lbs out of my car to, but who cares if you have the power to back it up weight only matters so much power to weight = ricer math most the time to justify a torqeless powerless motor
my car is only 3,200lbs I could careless about weight, If that was the case I would buy a 2,000lb import car..

why did i go with a 306? because I make the perfect rwhp and torque, Im making same horsepower as some guys with 347 strokers, I like the powerband of a 306 and less money into it.

that doesnt justify spending isane money on a v6 build and keep it n/a and a 302 h/c/i will outdyno it cost less and will smoke a n/a v6 car, hope its all worth it..



to each there own

i forgot the OP wants to stay N/A. your right a N/A V6 wont make more power than a built V8. i was assuming the OP wanted F/I.
the most power ive seen from a N/A V6 was ~250rwhp

a built V8 is not cheap, how much was yours and how much power did you make? (serious question, i want to compare)


a F-150 4.2 plus Ported splitport heads, a cam from SSM, and a used Procharger will make ~370rwhp.

add a Forged 4.2 and you can just up the boost as much as you want.

 

[hottwheels04]

if your gonna go through all the trouble just do a v8 swap,why build a n/a v6 ? ur gonna be alot happier if your gonna spend all the time and money for a motor / build n/a go v8 trust me goodluck!

building a V6 is much simpler than swapping a V8. these engines are completely drop in and have almost no wiring that need to be done. not to mention the 300lb difference between the two. you cant tell me you wouldnt want a mustang that weighed 300lbs less that a GT, but made the same power

let me ask you this, why'd you waste money and time on a bored 302? you would been happier with a 347

oh and G36 monkey, if you really want to stay N/A. you wont need Forged internals. just drop in a low mileage stock F-150 4.2 with the H/C/I of your choice.

HAHA you think a n/a 3.8 or v6 is gonna make the same horsepower as a built v8 hahah u are funny?



power to weight is 1 thing but,to justify having a n/a v6 because its 300lbs lighter is dumb, I can take 300lbs out of my car to, but who cares if you have the power to back it up weight only matters so much power to weight = ricer math most the time to justify a torqeless powerless motor
my car is only 3,200lbs I could careless about weight, If that was the case I would buy a 2,000lb import car..

why did i go with a 306? because I make the perfect rwhp and torque, Im making same horsepower as some guys with 347 strokers, I like the powerband of a 306 and less money into it.

that doesnt justify spending isane money on a v6 build and keep it n/a and a 302 h/c/i will outdyno it cost less and will smoke a n/a v6 car, hope its all worth it..



to each there own

i forgot the OP wants to stay N/A. your right a N/A V6 wont make more power than a built V8. i was assuming the OP wanted F/I.
the most power ive seen from a N/A V6 was ~250rwhp


a F-150 4.2 plus Ported splitport heads, a cam from SSM, and a used Procharger will make ~370rwhp.

add a Forged 4.2 and you can just up the boost as much as you want.

I was gonna say because it takes a 4.2 swap h/c/i and a blower to make 10 rwhp more then my car does n/a hahaha thats what I mean he should just do a n/a v8 swap n/a v6 swap is waste of money to make 160-250rwhp @ most lol

for example my car stock with just a flowmaster catback dynoed 201rwhp, ive seen guys with n/a v6 cars with h/c/i full bolt ons making 160-200rwhp lol now swap in a built motor h/c/i to make a 200-250rwhp. that says right there its better off to go a stock v8 swap or built n/a v8 swap.

when you can do a built v8 with same mods for less money and make 270-400rwhp lol it just makes no sense to me lol and if your worried about loseing weight, just do weight reduction and wala 100-300lbs ligther with a v8 that makes 100+ more hp and 100+more tq and still n/a

but to each there own, I mean you cant beat it when you can go to a junkyard and get a stock v8 for cheap.

 

[atlanticblue98]

if your gonna go through all the trouble just do a v8 swap,why build a n/a v6 ? ur gonna be alot happier if your gonna spend all the time and money for a motor / build n/a go v8 trust me goodluck!

building a V6 is much simpler than swapping a V8. these engines are completely drop in and have almost no wiring that need to be done. not to mention the 300lb difference between the two. you cant tell me you wouldnt want a mustang that weighed 300lbs less that a GT, but made the same power

let me ask you this, why'd you waste money and time on a bored 302? you would been happier with a 347

oh and G36 monkey, if you really want to stay N/A. you wont need Forged internals. just drop in a low mileage stock F-150 4.2 with the H/C/I of your choice.

HAHA you think a n/a 3.8 or v6 is gonna make the same horsepower as a built v8 hahah u are funny?



power to weight is 1 thing but,to justify having a n/a v6 because its 300lbs lighter is dumb, I can take 300lbs out of my car to, but who cares if you have the power to back it up weight only matters so much power to weight = ricer math most the time to justify a torqeless powerless motor
my car is only 3,200lbs I could careless about weight, If that was the case I would buy a 2,000lb import car..

why did i go with a 306? because I make the perfect rwhp and torque, Im making same horsepower as some guys with 347 strokers, I like the powerband of a 306 and less money into it.

that doesnt justify spending isane money on a v6 build and keep it n/a and a 302 h/c/i will outdyno it cost less and will smoke a n/a v6 car, hope its all worth it..



to each there own

i forgot the OP wants to stay N/A. your right a N/A V6 wont make more power than a built V8. i was assuming the OP wanted F/I.
the most power ive seen from a N/A V6 was ~250rwhp


a F-150 4.2 plus Ported splitport heads, a cam from SSM, and a used Procharger will make ~370rwhp.

add a Forged 4.2 and you can just up the boost as much as you want.

I was gonna say because it takes a 4.2 swap h/c/i and a blower to make 10 rwhp more then my car does n/a hahaha thats what I mean he should just do a n/a v8 swap n/a v6 swap is waste of money to make 160-250rwhp @ most lol

for example my car stock with just a flowmaster catback dynoed 201rwhp, ive seen guys with n/a v6 cars with h/c/i full bolt ons making 160-200rwhp lol now swap in a built motor h/c/i to make a 200-250rwhp. that says right there its better off to go a stock v8 swap or built n/a v8 swap.

when you can do a built v8 with same mods for less money and make 270-400rwhp lol it just makes no sense to me lol and if your worried about loseing weight, just do weight reduction and wala 100-300lbs ligther with a v8 that makes 100+ more hp and 100+more tq and still n/a

but to each there own, I mean you cant beat it when you can go to a junkyard and get a stock v8 for cheap.

99-04 usually make ~200rwhp full bolt-ons. if i were staying N/A, i wouldnt even use a built V6. a stock 4.2 would make the same power as a "built" one. H/C/I on a f-150 4.2 would make the same power as a Built 4.2 with a H/C/I

these motors love boost. without it, they are quite plain

 

[hottwheels04]

if your gonna go through all the trouble just do a v8 swap,why build a n/a v6 ? ur gonna be alot happier if your gonna spend all the time and money for a motor / build n/a go v8 trust me goodluck!

building a V6 is much simpler than swapping a V8. these engines are completely drop in and have almost no wiring that need to be done. not to mention the 300lb difference between the two. you cant tell me you wouldnt want a mustang that weighed 300lbs less that a GT, but made the same power

let me ask you this, why'd you waste money and time on a bored 302? you would been happier with a 347

oh and G36 monkey, if you really want to stay N/A. you wont need Forged internals. just drop in a low mileage stock F-150 4.2 with the H/C/I of your choice.

HAHA you think a n/a 3.8 or v6 is gonna make the same horsepower as a built v8 hahah u are funny?



power to weight is 1 thing but,to justify having a n/a v6 because its 300lbs lighter is dumb, I can take 300lbs out of my car to, but who cares if you have the power to back it up weight only matters so much power to weight = ricer math most the time to justify a torqeless powerless motor
my car is only 3,200lbs I could careless about weight, If that was the case I would buy a 2,000lb import car..

why did i go with a 306? because I make the perfect rwhp and torque, Im making same horsepower as some guys with 347 strokers, I like the powerband of a 306 and less money into it.

that doesnt justify spending isane money on a v6 build and keep it n/a and a 302 h/c/i will outdyno it cost less and will smoke a n/a v6 car, hope its all worth it..



to each there own

i forgot the OP wants to stay N/A. your right a N/A V6 wont make more power than a built V8. i was assuming the OP wanted F/I.
the most power ive seen from a N/A V6 was ~250rwhp


a F-150 4.2 plus Ported splitport heads, a cam from SSM, and a used Procharger will make ~370rwhp.

add a Forged 4.2 and you can just up the boost as much as you want.

I was gonna say because it takes a 4.2 swap h/c/i and a blower to make 10 rwhp more then my car does n/a hahaha thats what I mean he should just do a n/a v8 swap n/a v6 swap is waste of money to make 160-250rwhp @ most lol

for example my car stock with just a flowmaster catback dynoed 201rwhp, ive seen guys with n/a v6 cars with h/c/i full bolt ons making 160-200rwhp lol now swap in a built motor h/c/i to make a 200-250rwhp. that says right there its better off to go a stock v8 swap or built n/a v8 swap.

when you can do a built v8 with same mods for less money and make 270-400rwhp lol it just makes no sense to me lol and if your worried about loseing weight, just do weight reduction and wala 100-300lbs ligther with a v8 that makes 100+ more hp and 100+more tq and still n/a

but to each there own, I mean you cant beat it when you can go to a junkyard and get a stock v8 for cheap.

99-04 usually make ~200rwhp full bolt-ons. if i were staying N/A, i wouldnt even use a built V6. a stock 4.2 would make the same power as a "built" one. H/C/I on a f-150 4.2 would make the same power as a Built 4.2 with a H/C/I

these motors love boost. without it, they are quite plain

x2 exactly!


Isnt there a guy on here with a 10-11 sec boosted split port 4.o or 4.2?

 

[g36 monkey]

I didn't mean to start an argument. The whole reason I want to do this is to be different, because there are not many 4.2 mustangs in my area. Any idiot can v8 fast, it takes a special idiot to make a fast v6.

I am not trying to have the fastest car around, I just want a little more pep in the step.

I plan on building a v8, but thats in the future. As well as a 69 Mach 1, thats my dads dream car.
Sorry about all this ha.

 

[atlanticblue98]

if your gonna go through all the trouble just do a v8 swap,why build a n/a v6 ? ur gonna be alot happier if your gonna spend all the time and money for a motor / build n/a go v8 trust me goodluck!

building a V6 is much simpler than swapping a V8. these engines are completely drop in and have almost no wiring that need to be done. not to mention the 300lb difference between the two. you cant tell me you wouldnt want a mustang that weighed 300lbs less that a GT, but made the same power

let me ask you this, why'd you waste money and time on a bored 302? you would been happier with a 347

oh and G36 monkey, if you really want to stay N/A. you wont need Forged internals. just drop in a low mileage stock F-150 4.2 with the H/C/I of your choice.

HAHA you think a n/a 3.8 or v6 is gonna make the same horsepower as a built v8 hahah u are funny?



power to weight is 1 thing but,to justify having a n/a v6 because its 300lbs lighter is dumb, I can take 300lbs out of my car to, but who cares if you have the power to back it up weight only matters so much power to weight = ricer math most the time to justify a torqeless powerless motor
my car is only 3,200lbs I could careless about weight, If that was the case I would buy a 2,000lb import car..

why did i go with a 306? because I make the perfect rwhp and torque, Im making same horsepower as some guys with 347 strokers, I like the powerband of a 306 and less money into it.

that doesnt justify spending isane money on a v6 build and keep it n/a and a 302 h/c/i will outdyno it cost less and will smoke a n/a v6 car, hope its all worth it..



to each there own

i forgot the OP wants to stay N/A. your right a N/A V6 wont make more power than a built V8. i was assuming the OP wanted F/I.
the most power ive seen from a N/A V6 was ~250rwhp


a F-150 4.2 plus Ported splitport heads, a cam from SSM, and a used Procharger will make ~370rwhp.

add a Forged 4.2 and you can just up the boost as much as you want.

I was gonna say because it takes a 4.2 swap h/c/i and a blower to make 10 rwhp more then my car does n/a hahaha thats what I mean he should just do a n/a v8 swap n/a v6 swap is waste of money to make 160-250rwhp @ most lol

for example my car stock with just a flowmaster catback dynoed 201rwhp, ive seen guys with n/a v6 cars with h/c/i full bolt ons making 160-200rwhp lol now swap in a built motor h/c/i to make a 200-250rwhp. that says right there its better off to go a stock v8 swap or built n/a v8 swap.

when you can do a built v8 with same mods for less money and make 270-400rwhp lol it just makes no sense to me lol and if your worried about loseing weight, just do weight reduction and wala 100-300lbs ligther with a v8 that makes 100+ more hp and 100+more tq and still n/a

but to each there own, I mean you cant beat it when you can go to a junkyard and get a stock v8 for cheap.

99-04 usually make ~200rwhp full bolt-ons. if i were staying N/A, i wouldnt even use a built V6. a stock 4.2 would make the same power as a "built" one. H/C/I on a f-150 4.2 would make the same power as a Built 4.2 with a H/C/I

these motors love boost. without it, they are quite plain

x2 exactly!


Isnt there a guy on here with a 10-11 sec boosted split port 4.o or 4.2?

that is Shine1stang and it is actually a turbo'd Singleport.

 

[hottwheels04]

I didn't mean to start an argument. The whole reason I want to do this is to be different, because there are not many 4.2 mustangs in my area. Any idiot can v8 fast, it takes a special idiot to make a fast v6.

I am not trying to have the fastest car around, I just want a little more pep in the step.

I plan on building a v8, but thats in the future. As well as a 69 Mach 1, thats my dads dream car.
Sorry about all this ha.

No need to say sorry man wasnt argueing just when he said about 300lb ligther and making same power n/a v6 as a built v8 not possible! lol


Like I said to each there own, just saying You could always keep your options open and do a v8 if you wanted so more power to you, I hear you about being diff thats why I went n/a v8 and a 306, most guys do motor swaps or stokers or blowers or both!around here or stock / bolt on , I wanted to make a pretty quick and keep it a N/A 5.0.

 

[atlanticblue98]

I didn't mean to start an argument. The whole reason I want to do this is to be different, because there are not many 4.2 mustangs in my area. Any idiot can v8 fast, it takes a special idiot to make a fast v6.

I am not trying to have the fastest car around, I just want a little more pep in the step.

I plan on building a v8, but thats in the future. As well as a 69 Mach 1, thats my dads dream car.
Sorry about all this ha.

No need to say sorry man wasnt argueing just when he said about 300lb ligther and making same power n/a v6 as a built v8 not possible! lol


Like I said to each there own, just saying You could always keep your options open and do a v8 if you wanted so more power to you, I hear you about being diff thats why I went n/a v8 and a 306, most guys do motor swaps or stokers or blowers or both!around here or stock / bolt on , I wanted to make a pretty quick and keep it a N/A 5.0.

just to point it out, i said as much power as a V8, not a built V8.

just sayin

 

[shine1stang]

Isnt there a guy on here with a 10-11 sec boosted split port 4.o or 4.2?

Yes you are correct, and its still a 3.8l. My father has a low 10 sec split port v6 turbo car. Once all the bugs are worked out of it, its 9s all day long.
Too bad i missed the big debate yesterday! haha

 

[g36 monkey]

I missed the debate too, and it was my topic. I went out and bought some bullitt wheels, I need to update the sig haha.

Thanks for the input guys

 

[hottwheels04]

Isnt there a guy on here with a 10-11 sec boosted split port 4.o or 4.2?

Yes you are correct, and its still a 3.8l. My father has a low 10 sec split port v6 turbo car. Once all the bugs are worked out of it, its 9s all day long.
Too bad i missed the big debate yesterday! haha

Yeah his car is awesome!

 

[shine1stang]

there are some videos, and pics on gssmotorsports.com in the gallery section. His is the black one and mine is the white. You should check it out

 

[hottwheels04]

there are some videos, and pics on gssmotorsports.com in the gallery section. His is the black one and mine is the white. You should check it out

thanks!