setups for 13's to low 14's

[93PGT]

what list of parts do people have that gets them into 13's and 14's. w/o pi cams and heads (over my head for now)

I would like to figure out what it takes to get into those times.

right now i have
4:10's
cai
o/r X pipe
full exhaust-flowmasters

and i have bought/am buying
MAC LT's- here on tuesday
pi intake
trick flow plenum
75mm TB - maybe BBK
shift kit - transgo?

what other various bolt on could i do to make it into those kind of times (that would be plenty quick enough for me right now, i'm 17)

 

[justinschmidt1]

Im assuming your driving an auto npi car?

Honestly theres not much more you can do as far as bolt ons.....but with the stuff you have listed and the stuff your going to buy and a xcal2 with a tune I would say high 13s/low 14s is where you should be with traction.


I went the same route as you...im 19 now but had all those mods you had listed with 3.73s and was running 14.0 at 102 mph...with a shitty 60 foot but the car was high 13 second car with all the bolt ons you have listed and a tune

....you will get used to it and want more very quickly.

My advice is to save for a used blower....or a full pi swap.


Otherwise your gonna be stuck with a high 13 second car at best.

 

[AaRoN]

With the money you have or will spend on those bolt-on's, you could have easily got yourself PI cams/heads. Much, MUCH more bang for your buck. Plus that'll get into the 13's assuming you have decent tires to plant. 4.10's are a wast for an NPI. The car will fall on it's face too quickly now.

 

[97stanger]

^ thats why you slap a centri blower on there, to pull some top end for ya :thumb:

You basically have full bolt ons...your next step would be to decide if you want to stay n/a or do a power adder. You could always work on suspension as well...

 

[vermilion]

i thought of my car as a house. first is the foundation and plumbing and electrical. meaning suspension, driveline, and tune up. work on the engine next. save big and go big on reinforcing or call it quits. then your interior and look goods.

 

[justinschmidt1]

lol...to put it simple...with a npi 2v you need to go big or dont bother.


Nothings gonna change the fact that its a npi 2v turd other than a full pi swap or atleast pi cams and intake and even then...it wont be all that fast.

OR

some power adder


I guess it really depends on your goal but my car with all those bolt ons and now a blower is still not all that fast although im only running like 6 degrees of timing and a really safe tune but still.

 

[97stanger]

I guess it really depends on your goal but my car with all those bolt ons and now a blower is still not all that fast although im only running like 6 degrees of timing and a really safe tune but still.
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No justin, you've just fallen into the trap. nothing is ever fast enough....trust me. A year from now you'll have an 11 second car and it still won't be fast enough.

 

[justinschmidt1]

yea...I know..lol

it sucks but I realize nothing will never be enough


I would be satisfied with a built turbo 4.6 making like 700 hp though

 

[97stanger]

haha wouldn't we all...your car now has the potential to run some good times. i might have missed the thread, but what did you end up pushing out? I see youve ran a 12.8, thats not bad. Now work on some suspension and some sticky tires and im sure you could be low-mid 12's. Now i consider that a pretty quick street car

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I was plenty happy with 500 rwhp and an 11 second car. I don't race, and I don't care, the car was well balanced and reliable, but I guess I'm trap proof.

OP, bolt-ons and a tune will get you there, for about 2k. If you think that's worth it, go for it. I say, it's not, but that's just me.

 

[93PGT]

I didnt mention it, but i aready have new ford racing lowering springs and new stuts/shocks. the basic tune up has been taken care of and I might be buying pi cams. my problem is that I thinking that heads would be to much work for me to do. I would have to do it by myself and dont want to ruin a good running car. my mechanical experience includes putting LT headers and udp's on a 5.0 sn95 and headers and injectors on a probe gt. and of coarse other various bolt ons on both. thats about it I can figure the stuff out but dont want to get into messing with timing and other things like that. eventually if I stick with this car, I would like to buy PI heads and put aftermarket cams into them.

 

[Pennywise2]

The best mod you can do to try and get those times is practice and experience at your local track.

 

[xsoutherngun89x]

first ill post my 1/4 mile time.

14.3(there is a thread with the actual slip, i just dont wanna look it up. its been months)

my mods at the time
1. UPR o/r x
2. SCT Xcal3
3. PI intake
4. K/N filter(no CIA, just a drop in filter w/o the silencer)
5. HORRIBLE stock 10 year old shocks(more than likely hurt my times...)

this was ran with a shitty 2.2 60ft so add sticky tires to the equation and im in the 13's. its not hard to pickup speed with these cars, you just have to spend money in the right places. all those parts can be had at under 1 grand.

 

[xsoutherngun89x]

forgot to add, stock 2.73's out back, 245mm Fuzions, and a 5 speed.

 

[WarHorse]

sweet, i think the most expensive part of that 14.3 setup you had was the programer, the PI intake is well worth the money aswell, it takes a bit of mechanic experience and ofcourse the write up but is well worth it, and bolts right on.

whats the difference between the xcal2 and the xcal3? i read on a previous post that there really wasnt much of a difference.

 

[93PGT]

first ill post my 1/4 mile time.

14.3(there is a thread with the actual slip, i just dont wanna look it up. its been months)

my mods at the time
1. UPR o/r x
2. SCT Xcal3
3. PI intake
4. K/N filter(no CIA, just a drop in filter w/o the silencer)
5. HORRIBLE stock 10 year old shocks(more than likely hurt my times...)

this was ran with a shitty 2.2 60ft so add sticky tires to the equation and im in the 13's. its not hard to pickup speed with these cars, you just have to spend money in the right places. all those parts can be had at under 1 grand.

thanks this is exactly the kind of response i wanted to see

 

[xsoutherngun89x]

sweet, i think the most expensive part of that 14.3 setup you had was the programer, the PI intake is well worth the money aswell, it takes a bit of mechanic experience and ofcourse the write up but is well worth it, and bolts right on.

whats the difference between the xcal2 and the xcal3? i read on a previous post that there really wasnt much of a difference.

PI intake is a cakewalk man. The xcal3 is just the newer version. right now they are the same price as the xcal2, the differences are minor and either one will do the job, but they cost the same so get the 3. I purchased mine from Lasota and don knows his S&^*&*.

 

[Red 97]

In my opinion with the mods that you have I would just put a 75 wet shot on it. I have a 97 gt that ran 14.4s and with a just a regular old NX WET kit I was running 13.4 on stock suspension with 275/40 tires. I ran It like that for quite some time with no problems at all. Just do a wet kit though dont go dry. Just my 2 cents.

 

[93PGT]

nitrous seems to me like definatly a track only kind of thing. I would rather spend more on my car and have it quick all the time instead of quick on nitrous. and the times are changing. I have got to be able to deal with boosted civics and dsm's now :crying: other wise I can easily walk past all the bolt on ricers around here with the slowstang. I can definatly see heads and cams in the future or f/i

 

[LI98GT]

I didnt mention it, but i aready have new ford racing lowering springs and new stuts/shocks. the basic tune up has been taken care of and I might be buying pi cams. my problem is that I thinking that heads would be to much work for me to do. I would have to do it by myself and dont want to ruin a good running car. my mechanical experience includes putting LT headers and udp's on a 5.0 sn95 and headers and injectors on a probe gt. and of coarse other various bolt ons on both. thats about it I can figure the stuff out but dont want to get into messing with timing and other things like that. eventually if I stick with this car, I would like to buy PI heads and put aftermarket cams into them.

That's about where I was/am mechanically, and was able to swap over the pi cams and pi intake into and onto the NPI heads with no problems. I used the method where the front engine cover was removed along with the accessories. It's very close to doing the full headswap, but if you use the cam removal tool, you don't have to go that far. Along with the mid pipe swap, the best performance mods I've done on the stang and will get you to that high 13s-low 14s times no problem.