Should I buy this an make it my new project?

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Aright so this is what i am contemplating.

Deposite on vehicle is placed!!



What would you think would be a fair price considering all the parts an everything.

I dose still need some work.



This is a 1996 gt with lots of work put into it. The car still needs to be dynoed an tuned. It has ZERO miles after the build has been assembled, but the engine has been started an car rolled around the current owners yard.

Now i planed to buy this vehicle when it was in pieces a little over a year ago, but things came up then couldn't afford to do so. Now the car is put together for the majority of major things an is once again for sale.


This is the list with everything that is on the car. It's pretty extensive. Let me know if anything alarming is showing that i may have over looked an should question.



Also i am talking to livernois to get all the engine specs before i buy this vehicle to make sure everything is 100% acurate.-contacted origonal owner so i can get all information-awaiting response


Mostly this car will be a power house! an i can make this into something great!



ENGINE
I. Rotating Assembly : Professionally built by Livernois Motorsports, all fasteners torqued to specs and marked. Engine has never been started.
1. 2003 seasoned cobra block, bored 20 thousand’s over.
2. Snyder stroker forged crank.
3. Manley forged Rods.
4. Mahle phosphate coated pistons.
5. Stainless steel valves.
6. Livernois custom grind stage III blower cam.
7. Ford PI heads with Livernois stage III port and upgraded springs.
8. ARP fasteners.

II. Induction :
1. Fox Lake P 51 intake.
2. Accufab 75mm throttle body, (polished).
3. Paxton Novi 1000RR centrifugal supercharger (polished).
4. Reichard Racing 2 ½ “ supercharger pulley (chrome plated).
5. Supercharger brackets (powder coated white).
6. Inlet Tube, custom fabricated 4†aluminum (powder coated white).
7. Discharge tube, 3 ½†(powder coated white) modified to accept SCT BA 3000 mass air meter sampling tube (modified for blow through metering)



III. Fuel Delivery:
1. Stock Ford tank modified to accept braided feed and return fuel lines.
2. Gas tank strap (chrome plated), tank painted black.
3. Braided fuel lines feed and return with Aeroquip fittings.
4. Billet Aluminum in line fuel filters with replaceable screens).
5. Ford in tank 255 lph fuel pump
6. Kenne Bell boost a pump with controls mounted in console.
7. Pro M adjustable billet fuel pressure regulator.
8. Fuel pressure gauge mounted on regulator and gauge in A pillar.
9. Pro M fuel rails.
10. 62 pound injectors
11. Snow water methanol injection with Canton custom fabricated chrome plated



Coolant reservoir.
12. 4 gallons of Snow coolant mix.
IV. Cooling and Lubrication:
1. Fluidyne aluminum radiator.
2. Water inlet neck (chrome plated).
3. Radiator hose, flex steel and chromed.
4. Canton, radiator overflow reservoir (chrome plated).
5. Moroso 7qt. oil pan.
6. New Ford high output oil pump.
7. Oil dip stick tube (chrome plated).
8. New water pump (pulley is chrome plated).
V. Ignition:
1. MSD coil packs (mounted in custom location).
2. TRW spark plugs, one (1) setting colder.
3. Taylor 10.5mm plug wires (custom routing).
VI. Exhaust:
1. Pro M 1 5/8†headers, ceramic copper coated inside and out, 2 ½†pro chamber. Coating by Jet Hot.


VII. Engine Accessories
1. Power steering pump, new, (brackets powder coated white)(pump pulley chrome plated).
2. Canton power steering fluid reservoir (chrome plated).
3. New alternator (case powder coated white) (pulley chrome plated).
4. Pro M harmonic balancer.


VIII. Other:
1. Valve covers, original phenolic plastic (chrome plated).
2. Front engine cover (powder coated silver).
3. All wiring in custom braided loom.
4. Vacuum hose, all silicone, red or blue.
5. Radiator cover, real carbon fiber.
6. Upper fire wall trim piece, custom carbon fiber.
7. Windshield cowling, custom carbon fiber.
8. Hood hinges (chrome plated).
9. Breaks master cylinder (chrome plated).
10. New Optima red top battery.



TRANSMISSON
I. Ford 4R70W, complete rebuild with Baumann Engineering upgrades
Precision Industries 3200rpm stall converter.
II. Drive train:
1. Custom fabricated aluminum driveshaft.
2. T.A. differential cover.
3. Stock 28 spline axels.
4. Ford, 3:73 gears.
5. Transmission cooler (heat exchanger damaged, needs replacing).
6. UPR transmission shift lever (powder coated white).
7. Transmission dip stick tube (chrome plated).




INTERIOR
I. Upholstery:
1. Seats, custom vinyl with white look carbon fiber inserts and embroidered mustang beneath head rest.-will change for race seats (corbeau)
2. New Ford Racing floor mats.
3. New upgraded interior carpeting.
4. Rear seat deleted (in anticipation of stereo installation).
II. Interior Gauges:
1. White face gauge overlay to match reverse el glow gauges.
2. Twelve aftermarket gauges, nine are reverse el glow, three are Dakota digital amplifier temperature gauges, heat sensors are already run to the rear of car for attachment to the amplifiers.
3. Triple A pillar pod.
4. Triple center pod by Florida 5.0.
5. Custom fabricated center gauge cluster with hidden l.e.d. lighting.
6. Remote radar detector with front and back laser protection.




SUSPENSION


I. Rear Suspension:
1. TA differential cover.
2. Maximum Motorsports pan hard bar. Brackets (powder coated yellow), bar (chrome plated).
3. Steeda progressive rate rear springs.
4. Rear sway bar with new polyurethane bushings (powder coated yellow).
5. Maximum Motorsports full length sub frame connectors (powder coated yellow).
6. Maximum Motorsports torque arm (powder coated yellow).
7. Maximum Motorsports lower control arms (powder coated yellow). Note: upper control arms are deleted with the torque arm to prevent binding and allow for full rear suspension travel.
II. Front Suspension:
1. UPR tubular K member (powder coated yellow).
2. UPR tubular A arms (powder coated yellow).
3. UPR Coil over conversion (springs powder coated yellow).
4. Steeda x ball links.
5. Steeda billet aluminum front sway bar bracket with new polyurethane bushings.
6. Front sway bar (powder coated yellow).
7. Steeda adjustable bump steer.
8. Maximum Motorsports steering shaft.
9. New polyurethane end links.
10. Maximum Motorsports aluminum steering shaft bushing, not offset.
11. Shocks and struts, Illumina 5 way adjustable.
III. Front Brakes:
1. Ford cobra two piston PBR with EBC yellow stuff pads (new).
2. Baer 13†slotted and cross drilled rotor (hat painted red).
3. New braided lines.
IV. Rear Brakes:
1. Ford single piston (caliper painted red) with EBC yellow stuff pads (new).
2. Baer 13†rear rotor (hat painted red).


BODY
1. Cervini Stalker body kit. - Not a fan of the body kit so let me know if you would be interested in a purchase.


2. Front and rear bumpers have been painted.
3. Saleen rear spoiler.
4. Hood, cobra 2000R functional cowl, painted.
5. Roof scoop, damaged, replace is brand new.
6. Headlights, one piece dual projector with angel eyes and led’s.
7. Driving lights, 4†with angel eyes.
8. New interior fender liners, painted black.
9. Engine bay has been smoothed and painted.
10. Shaved door handles.

KNOWN BODY DESCREPENCIES:

4. Windshield wiper arms and blades need to be purchased and installed.
7. Outside window moldings need to be installed.
8. Lower body scoops need to be painted and installed.
9. Rear bumper needs to be installed.
10. Trunk lid needs to be painted and installed.
12. Paint rest of car.
13. NOTE: There was door release switch that was wired into the trunk for emergencies. Simple push button similar to the trunk release in the glove box. I think it is still with the car. You can access the trunk with the key. I also have a spare trunk access key.


This stereo is OKAY in my opinion it will do justice for the moment

STEREO
1. Head Unit, Dual Marine, white face.
2. Front Speakers, Audiobahn component, 6 ½†midrange, 4†midrange, 25mm tweeter.
3. Rear Speakers, Audiobahn 5 ¼†midrange for fill.
Soundstream 125watt class AB four channel amp, with custom clear acrylic bottom.
. EQ, Audiobahn 30 band 1/3 octave with bass boost and line driver.



Now for you media HOES!

BUT like i said things will be changed to make it into my own taste so let me know your fed back on its current look. I can always take in new thoughts.

Its been outside an that is bird S#&^






This is where some body work will cost me some $$$$ origonal owner had a roof scoop on an that is bondo.













 

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Why dump so much time and money into a car and then leave the 4R70W?
 
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Why dump so much time and money into a car and then leave the 4R70W?



It was rebuilt so im not sure what is capability is or what he was shooting for im trying to contact the original owner so i can make sure it was built up fairly strong.
 

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i'd call livernoise see if the dates match up with what the previous owner is saying... if they do, I'd start it up. if it runs, i'd buy it.
 
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i'd call livernoise see if the dates match up with what the previous owner is saying... if they do, I'd start it up. if it runs, i'd buy it.

I have just talked to livernoise and they said they changed their system 2 years ago an his name is not showing up in the system.

So now im going to call the origonal owner an see what date he purchased the build or had it done.

I have heard it run an it is forsure not dressed up stock motor.


Also he had a shop assemble the engine/powertrain so they are going to give me a call on Monday when they are open.
 
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interesting....


He said it was a little over 2 years ago when he bought the engine.


I really don't think someone would lie about having a build done if they have already sold the car an it wouldn't give them any benefit.

The original owner asked to hear it when i get it finish so i would strongly assume it is legit.



UGH!!!! EVERYONE KEEP ALL RECEIPTS PLEASE!!!
 

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Your buying someones problems. Looks badass on paper and easy to get excited about how great it can be but the reality usually is that people just don't put that much money into cars too often and not finish them. I'd be willing to bet something it majorly wrong and he's trying to get out from under it. Any parts that you can't verify with by seeing them with your own eyes I wouldn't assume they are even there. The price i'd pay for that would be strictly parts value that I could verify. Take someones word for it and you'll end up paying for stock parts
 

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I would think... if I dumped that much money into a car, I would keep it inside or at least put a tarp over it. All that bird shit that it's covered should be the first clue to walk away, in my opinion. Something seems weird.
 

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seems a little too good to be true, but then again, you might have just struck oil... how much is he asking for it?
 

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That's a sweet car I'd buy it depending on price for sure
 

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I agree with ram360, powertrain sounds good on paper(if it runs?)but you just don't know if someone cut corners somewhere they shouldn't have especially if the car was stored the way it was. The rest depends on your taste, The body kit is definitely not my taste either.
 
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Hey thanks everyone for all the input seriously this does help!


The car does run a sounds MEAN! Just needs to be tuned an on a dyno

This is the background story on the car year an a half about it was forsale as a parts car with the engine an all in the car as well as drivetrain. Another guy bought the car assembled something then ran into some finance problems then sold it to the current owner. The current guy got it started buy taking it into a shop an having a key programmed an some wiring done.

I really do like the car for its capability if livernoise had the paper work I would buy it hands down because like Chris has said. You don't want an engine that's been sitting for awhile.

the car will also drive right now forward an backward just want it tuned so nothing bad happens running too lean or whawhatever

The guy is asking 10k but I talked him down to 8k I think 7,500 would be a pretty good deal.


thanks again everyone keep the suggestions coming.
 

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