teach me about tuners (xcals ..predators..etc.)

trav_19 · Feb 2, 2008

ok what do i want lol a xcal2 or 3 .....a diablotuner ...i really know nothing about them and anyone with experience can let me know about the benefits ....can you reset the check engine lights for no cats ...

im wanting it for my 99 cobra just so you guys know ...what will be the best benifits for me thanks guys

Lightning Struck · Feb 2, 2008

you can do about anything you want to man. I have the xcal2 for my L and it controls almost any function you can think of. However on the tune stuff if you dont know what your doing take it to a dyno shop and let them do it for you. Plus it should be done ON the dyno anyway so you know your a/f is dead on. But yea you can cut off cats/ scan error codes / bump fuel pressure / timing / spark curve / rpm set timing / .......

trav_19 · Feb 2, 2008

well if i need to do it on a dyno cant i just get a syno tune and they can do everything?? or is that not how it works??

Jrgunn5150 · Feb 2, 2008

They can do everything on the dyno, but you can't fine tune it later, you need to head back and lay down another 150.

Which tuner to get kinda depends on who you trust touching your car, and what they use. If they are Diablosport only, then that's the way you go.

Lightning Struck · Feb 2, 2008

tRaV_19 said:
well if i need to do it on a dyno cant i just get a syno tune and they can do everything?? or is that not how it works??

when i say you need to do it on a dyno, that is for max output and correct a/f ratio. You can buy " pre ' loaded tunes on them for your car and they are OK but wont bring out the full potential of your mods. Lets say you put on headers / catback/ mid pipe / pulleys/ CAI /and a throttle body.......you tell the place your getting it from your mods, they set it with a tune ........you get it and load it on your car. That tune would be OK.....but if you want MAX power you need to take it to a dyno and have a custom tune done.

scarface · Feb 3, 2008

Trav, I went through the same situation when I got my Cobra. After tons of research I went with an Xcal2 from Lasota Racing. The Xcal3 is the thing to get now. All do the same basic thing, I would just check around and see what tuners in your area use most.

xsoutherngun89x · Feb 3, 2008

yup, don at lasota. his mail performance tune that he uploaded on my xcal3 i bought knocked off almost 4 tenths in the 1/4. the guy is no BS, he knows his stuff

trav_19 · Feb 3, 2008

looks like pauls high performance uses sct .....whos a good place to buy a sct from?

xsoutherngun89x · Feb 3, 2008

www.LasotaRacing.com

scarface · Feb 3, 2008

xsoutherngun89x said:
www.LasotaRacing.com

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Jrgunn5150 · Feb 3, 2008

Yep, i got my first one from Modular Depot, they suck. Lasota is awesome!

trav_19 · Feb 3, 2008

J.R. said:
Yep, i got my first one from Modular Depot, they suck. Lasota is awesome!

i noticed that uprproducts has the xcal 3's and i was curious about buying there since they are a site sponsor

AaRoN · Feb 3, 2008

tRaV_19 said:
J.R. said:

Yep, i got my first one from Modular Depot, they suck. Lasota is awesome!

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i noticed that uprproducts has the xcal 3's and i was curious about buying there since they are a site sponsor

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Jrgunn5150 · Feb 3, 2008

tRaV_19 said:
J.R. said:

Yep, i got my first one from Modular Depot, they suck. Lasota is awesome!

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i noticed that uprproducts has the xcal 3's and i was curious about buying there since they are a site sponsor

I dunno if they send you a tune or anything? Another tuner, I haven't used, is Amazon, they give you a year of free re-tunes for any mods you get or whatever.

xsoutherngun89x · Feb 3, 2008

don gives 90 days too, and i can vouch for his tunes

trav_19 · Feb 3, 2008

so wait each time i do a mod i have to send it back and they have to modify the tuner?! i cant just get the tuner take it to pauls and have him do his thing for the stuff i have done??

or do where ever i get it custom tune it so i can plug it in accept there tune and it will do it.

Jrgunn5150 · Feb 3, 2008

tRaV_19 said:
so wait each time i do a mod i have to send it back and they have to modify the tuner?! i cant just get the tuner take it to pauls and have him do his thing for the stuff i have done??

or do where ever i get it custom tune it so i can plug it in accept there tune and it will do it.

Don can email you updated files, you datalog and send back to him, he forwards you an updated file.

Pauls should be able to nail it the first time, so for you a blank Xcal or one with a canned SCT tune isn't a bad idea.

For that matter Pauls should be able to sell you an Xcal

trav_19 · Feb 4, 2008

J.R. said:
tRaV_19 said:

so wait each time i do a mod i have to send it back and they have to modify the tuner?! i cant just get the tuner take it to pauls and have him do his thing for the stuff i have done??

or do where ever i get it custom tune it so i can plug it in accept there tune and it will do it.

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Don can email you updated files, you datalog and send back to him, he forwards you an updated file.

Pauls should be able to nail it the first time, so for you a blank Xcal or one with a canned SCT tune isn't a bad idea.

For that matter Pauls should be able to sell you an Xcal

i thought so too...but then i started looking around his site at his prices :wall: holy crap is he high on his stuff lol...i think im going to look into don that way he can throw the first tune in for me with the mods its got now ...then when i get some more i will take it to paul here dyno it and have him make the adjustments he needs to do

realitygt · Feb 4, 2008

i don't really understand them either :dunno: do they give you like three tunes that you put on a chip and plug it into the ecu? and then you can reprogram the chip or what?

Let's say i had a tune on my car from one of those tuners. If i unhooked my battery for 15 mins or so would everything go back to the stock settings and I would have to reprogram it?

and is there anyway with these things that you could cause serious damage to your car?

Also, where would be a good place to get a tune in missouri? j/w for future. I know adrenaline does terrible tunes, and i've never heard anything about steigemeiers.

Jrgunn5150 · Feb 4, 2008

realitygt said:
i don't really understand them either :dunno: do they give you like three tunes that you put on a chip and plug it into the ecu? and then you can reprogram the chip or what?

Let's say i had a tune on my car from one of those tuners. If i unhooked my battery for 15 mins or so would everything go back to the stock settings and I would have to reprogram it?

and is there anyway with these things that you could cause serious damage to your car?

Also, where would be a good place to get a tune in missouri? j/w for future. I know adrenaline does terrible tunes, and i've never heard anything about steigemeiers.

Usually they give you two or three tunes. Either generic, or somewhat tailored for your mods and fuel type. PLus it will hold your stock tune

No, it stays in the computer, the stock tune gfoes in the programer and is replaced by one from the tuner

Yes, if you unhooked it in the middle of programing, it could probably eff your ecu pretty good.

Can't help you there, lol. If you mean Steigmeirs the blower people, they have a pretty good rep.