Tell if car is PI or not?

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Ok so I had alittle fun with a built S4 today. Through the first 3 gears I was not embarrassed, we didn't go much further cause we went different directions. I figured non-pi would not have been as close. I've had the same experience with my roommates STI that puts 325 to the wheels. The first three gears I am close then after he slowly pulls on me. I'm not getting excited I was just curious because I feel like I should get spanked in both cases.
 

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R u serious ???? PI refers to " performance improved " 99-04 gt .........96-98 are n-pi ...


I'm still not sure if you're serious . I wasn't trying to be a dick , just thought you had a 5.0 ???
 

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95BEASTstang said:
R u serious ???? PI refers to " performance improved " 99-04 gt .........96-98 are n-pi ...


I'm still not dure if you're serious . I wasn't trying to be a stick , just thought you had a 5.0 ???

According to his sig he has a '96 GT.
 

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95BEASTstang said:
R u serious ???? PI refers to " performance improved " 99-04 gt .........96-98 are n-pi ...


I'm still not dure if you're serious . I wasn't trying to be a stick , just thought you had a 5.0 ???

We know that sherlock...
 

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Well then ..........I wasn't so sure with all of your uneducated posts you usually make !!!!!!!!!!! :dontknow:
 

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You've been here for 43 posts, and can say I make uneducated posts.....hmmm maybe your the one making uneducated posts cause thats the dumbestshit I've heard in a minute.
 

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95BEASTstang said:
Well then ..........I wasn't so sure with all of your uneducated posts you usually make !!!!!!!!!!! :dontknow:

43 posts?! Seriously? Just GTFO :icon_salut:

5.Woahhh said:
Ok so I had alittle fun with a built S4 today. Through the first 3 gears I was not embarrassed, we didn't go much further cause we went different directions. I figured non-pi would not have been as close. I've had the same experience with my roommates STI that puts 325 to the wheels. The first three gears I am close then after he slowly pulls on me. I'm not getting excited I was just curious because I feel like I should get spanked in both cases.

So by "not embarrased" you meant you kept up with him? Is this a built Bi-turbo S4 or n/a V8 S4? I need more of the story to really guess if you have any PI parts on the car. Where you guys going from a dig from a roll? I doubt you guys raced from a dig because he would of put cars on you from the start...if he knew how to drive. What do you mean by "built" , upgraped ECU's can put them at about 320 horse (up from only 250 stock), a non-pi can hang slightly with a mild bolt on S4, if he's modded out (ecu/tune, turbo upgrades, upped boost, etc.) you wouldnt keep up for a second, i know, my buddy in NJ has a nasty one. His friend has an 04 S4 with the N/A V8 and it took my 4.10's, full exhaust and full 03 PI engine to only pull him a full car length going 45 to about 140.
 
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95BEASTstang said:
R u serious ???? PI refers to " performance improved " 99-04 gt .........96-98 are n-pi ...


I'm still not sure if you're serious . I wasn't trying to be a stick , just thought you had a 5.0 ???

I know the difference Brah, this is my 3rd Stang. I was saying is there a way to look and check because I bought my car off someone.
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95BEASTstang said:
Well then ..........I wasn't so sure with all of your uneducated posts you usually make !!!!!!!!!!! :dontknow:

43 posts?! Seriously? Just GTFO :icon_salut:

5.Woahhh said:
Ok so I had alittle fun with a built S4 today. Through the first 3 gears I was not embarrassed, we didn't go much further cause we went different directions. I figured non-pi would not have been as close. I've had the same experience with my roommates STI that puts 325 to the wheels. The first three gears I am close then after he slowly pulls on me. I'm not getting excited I was just curious because I feel like I should get spanked in both cases.

So by "not embarrased" you meant you kept up with him? Is this a built Bi-turbo S4 or n/a V8 S4? I need more of the story to really guess if you have any PI parts on the car. Where you guys going from a dig from a roll? I doubt you guys raced from a dig because he would of put cars on you from the start...if he knew how to drive. What do you mean by "built" , upgraped ECU's can put them at about 320 horse (up from only 250 stock), a non-pi can hang slightly with a mild bolt on S4, if he's modded out (ecu/tune, turbo upgrades, upped boost, etc.) you wouldnt keep up for a second, i know, my buddy in NJ has a nasty one. His friend has an 04 S4 with the N/A V8 and it took my 4.10's, full exhaust and full 03 PI engine to only pull him a full car length going 45 to about 140.

It was from a dig. Well I guess you could say a 5mph roll. He didn't put like 10cars on me from the start. But there was no way I was catching him. He had a huge front mount, exhaust, who knows what else. I'm not trying to act like my car was fast I am just curious and got me thinking.
 

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T-5 Killer said:
95BEASTstang said:
R u serious ???? PI refers to " performance improved " 99-04 gt .........96-98 are n-pi ...


I'm still not dure if you're serious . I wasn't trying to be a stick , just thought you had a 5.0 ???

Off topic... I can't stop lookin at your avatar.... I've seen this chick on TV plenty times and never looked twice at her.... Everytime I see you post in a thread I get distracted LOL!

According to his sig he has a '96 GT.
 

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well, for one if you have the oil fill on the passenger side thats a sign for PI, lol :) Also your intake manifold runners would be different....

idk..... lol. It looks the same since mine is Romeo, minus the intake.
 

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I have the oil fill on my driver's side, it depends who did the swap and how. One way to check is to pull off your alternator, look under the intake manifold, or put your hand under there and if the underside of the intake runners are flat then its non-pi. Also, take a flashlight and shine it under the intake manifold to see if your coolant tube goes straight back, if it does = non-pi. If the intake manifold in rounded underneath and you really cant see the coolant tube except for a few inches(it then turns to the driver's side head and runs along the side of the head) then its atleast a PI intake.
 

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no need to do all that. NPI intake first runner runs to the passenger side to cylinder 1, PI intake first runner runs to the drivers side cylinder 5.

no way to tell if the heads are PI unless you take the intake or valve covers off, then you'd see the D shaped intake ports, or with the valve cover off you'll see PI stamped.
 
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Lee12609 said:
no need to do all that. NPI intake first runner runs to the passenger side to cylinder 1, PI intake first runner runs to the drivers side cylinder 5.

no way to tell if the heads are PI unless you take the intake or valve covers off, then you'd see the D shaped intake ports, or with the valve cover off you'll see PI stamped.

Thanks Lee.
 

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95_5.0@15 said:
You've been here for 43 posts, and can say I make uneducated posts.....hmmm maybe your the one making uneducated posts cause thats the dumbestshit I've heard in a minute.

Don't kid yourself , your a young kid who just runs his mouth ......Just cause I don't spend my every waking moment on this forum .Lets base someones education on their postcount ??????

THAT IS SOME OF THE DUMBEST SHIT I HAVE HEARD IN AWHILE !!!!!! Don't try and and argue with a retard he will beat you with experience !!!! Thanks for the entertainment !!!!
 

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95BEASTstang said:
95_5.0@15 said:
You've been here for 43 posts, and can say I make uneducated posts.....hmmm maybe your the one making uneducated posts cause thats the dumbestshit I've heard in a minute.

Don't kid yourself , your a young kid who just runs his mouth ......Just cause I don't spend my every waking moment on this forum .Lets base someones education on their postcount ??????

THAT IS SOME OF THE DUMBEST stinky pile I HAVE HEARD IN AWHILE !!!!!! Don't try and and argue with a retard he will beat you with experience !!!! Thanks for the entertainment !!!!

no need for this kind of bickering in here..... its common knowledge what year vehicles are PI and which are nPI, so nobody that spends "every waking moment" on this forum would ask something like that. the entertaining part is you actually thinking thats what he meant.
 

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I didn't think that . I know this forum has helped me with numerous problems for my car .It has such a great knowledge base , I can usually find the answer I was looking for in the search function.


You state not to bicker but yet come and add fuel to the fire ........I was stating "every waking moment" cause don't try and base someones knowledge on their post count . If you look back at my original post I said " I'm not trying to be a dick " cause you can't tell over the internet how a post is coming across so I said that for a reason . And he responded to me with a smart ass comment . Bottom line is stop bickering if there isn't any room in here for this ?????????????

Truly it amazes me that everyone actually thought I was trying to tell everyone on here what pi/npi is ............the guys on here are more knowledgeable than myself ....
 

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i didnt take his comment as "smart ass". he called you sherlock because like i said its pretty common knowledge what years are PI and which are nPI, and your answer was which cars were and werent. i think he just meant that they knew that.

your last sentence in your last post makes no sense because that is exactly what you did, so why does it amaze you that we thought that?
 

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