Ok guys I need to get out of my car. I found out the roof had been replaced and it was done incorrcyly and I want nothing to do with it. A friend of mine has a co worker hat wants to trade and he knows about the roof and doesn't care. I feel like there's probably something wrong with his ride that he's not telling me. He says it's just oxidized paint and mismatched front buckets. So here's what the line up is. My car is a 94 crystal white gt with 5 speed. Cai, msd digital 6al, off brand shorty headers, o/r pypes x, frpp driveshaft, frpp 3.73's, moser girdled cover, drop zone springs, lmr tubular rear arms, mgw shifter, borla prox's, then dress up I have leather seats I swapped in from a 96 and a set of bullet 18x9 and bulky 18x10.5 deep in black on the car. I recently replaced my water pump and hoses also did my maf. My car has 136,000 on the clock. His car a 94 rio red gt with 5 speed. Frpp shorty headers, summit o/r h pipe, flow 40's with stock tails, reared out of a 89 ish mark 7 rebuilt with 4.10's. Car mostly stock and has 170k on the clock. Also says I can keep my bullits and is down for swapping parts around. So I can keep the mods I want. Now according to him this far the car is legit minus the paint being slightly oxidized which my friend believes is easily buffable. The only other cosmetic thing are the dark blue front buckets from the 89 mark 7 Lsc. Are these seats a common swap? How hard is to find leather saddle interior if I want to replace it and what does it usually go for? Out side looking in what do you guys think? I'm going this weekend to see the car in person. If the shell is solid and it runs good I might jump on it. I know it's a long winded post but any help advice would be appreciated.
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BruhBrahBrad
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Pics would be nice.
Saddle isnt usually hard to find, but in great condition it is.
I mean I can understang not wanting anything to do with a car, because of incorrectly done repairs, but what exactly is wrong with the roof?
Saddle isnt usually hard to find, but in great condition it is.
I mean I can understang not wanting anything to do with a car, because of incorrectly done repairs, but what exactly is wrong with the roof?
The whole roof has been replaced. As in they cut it in the dead center of the pillars and welded another roof and half pillars on. They just welded around the outside of the pillars. So basically it has zero structural stability.
How else would they do it? If they cut it in one spot and welded it back together in the same spot, that's pretty much how it works...?
Honestly it sounds like you're trading one rough car for another rough car and a bag of unknowns. Pass.
mavisky
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Im also failing to see the issue, i mean did you expect them to weld from the inside?
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945.0
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just roll cage your car and be done. am muscle carries them at a good cost rip out your int. and weld or bolt it in. cant be that hard. keep your car. "oxidized paint" and rear end swap from a 87 mark why was the swap done? i would pick that car apart first before jumping into a problem child.
twovalveterror
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they could have staggered the cut to give the weld more surface area, but a sheet metal roof is a sheet metal roof. spend some cash on a cage and move on.
^^^Doing that would make it infinitely more difficult to get it to line up right. It take a LOT of measurements to get straight lines right before cutting/welding a roof, it would be near impossible with staggered/zig-zag cuts I would think, and the benefit would be minimal, especially considering the risk involved.
Keep it shiny side up.
Keep it shiny side up.
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I honestly dont think that is a huge problem like someone said a sheetmetal roof is a sheetmetal roof, i say as long as it doesnt flex, and the welds are strong, just stick with your car and if you feel the need, cage it.
twovalveterror
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right and easy are not always synonymous. this argument doesn't matter though, because it has already happened.
framda
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Exactly!
No guys. The roof does flex and is incorrectly lined up. You never chop the structural section of the roof. Cutting the center of the pillars makes them extremely weak. The proper roof replacement is to punch out the spot welds and replace the whole pillars individually and then replace the roof panel. The car was chopped and chopped hard. Itss been rolled at some point and that's pretty shity. If it was just me by myself a cage might not be a bad idea. The problem is my little girl is with me most of the time in the car and IMO that's not cool. Oh trust me keeping it shiny side up is the plan but since I've been digging around this car since I've owned it I've found that the whole drivers side rear quarter was caved in the front end is mangled and needs at least a rad support and header panel and who knows how much straightening. My car is total loss and his car this far is shaping up to be a legit. I got some pictures and the car isn't oxidized. The front and rear bumpers need refinishing but a cobra front and a quick refinish at my friends booth will fix all that. The sears are in amazing shape just don't match so I'm not really seeing much problem with what he considers problem areas. Yes I need to look into it more obviously. I have a head with 1-2 bad valves in it that I haven't addressed so that's another thing. The roof is the main issue as its completely unsafe. Even a side collision will buckle these welds. Now I'm a safe driver but Other people are dumb asses.
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You are right, there are right and wrong ways of doing things. Most people don't or won't take the time to find out the right way and end up spending more time and money fixing it than what it would have taken to do it the right way to begin with. I have cut Motorcycle frames in half and they were stronger when they were put back together, but you have to know what you are doing.
I would have to agree with you on the roof deal. I wouldnt like knowing its not done right. I do paint and body work and you are correct when you say it was not done right. BUT, that being said, a person can easily pick up a roof at a salvage since there are tons of these cars out there. A roof job isn't really a big deal for a body shop and wouldnt cost near as much as you think. Id get prices figured up to fix everything wrong with your car that you dislike, and then figure up how much itd cost to make the other car tolerable. The out come may surprise you.
