Tuning Innovations

[lwarrior1016]

Do you know where they ordered it from?

We could look up the rotating assembly options and possibly get an idea.

 

[Daryl]

Directly from Scat.

 

[Tturaider]

I have my own experience with Ted which was not that impressive.

Everyone blows about him on a specific forum on facebook. My experience was not completely positive. He wouldn't spend much time helping me to figure out the issues. After installing the chip I had idle surging and a hot start issue when previous to any work done my stock car ran perfect. It had me spending money where I didn't need to be and chasing every possible scenario. His only response was 'works on X number of cars, must be a wiring problem'.

Finally got a Term X which I will install here this month and toss this chip aside.

 

[Daryl]

Hopefully I won’t have the same experience, as mine just arrived today!

 

[joemomma]

Well, how'd it go?

 

[Daryl]

There’s a bit more involved than just slapping this chip in. Something they fail to mention in the face page. Ie, has to be X degrees BTDC, use the supplied scratch pad (tiny piece) to “clean/polish” the contact points…. but must be done “PERFECTLY DONE OR WON’T WORK” blah blah blah.

Do, for someone like me with limited wrenching experience, it’s an additional $200 trip to the shop to have it done CORRECTLY AND PROPERLY… or voids warranty.

I’m still looking forward to trying it with hopes of improvements. So, keeping a positive posture….

 

[ttocs]

hardest part I had was just getting the ecu out from the kick. With all the wires it take some work to snake it out.

 

[Daryl]

hardest part I had was just getting the ecu out from the kick. With all the wires it take some work to snake it out.

Duely noted, thank you. I’ll give it a shot…

 

[Daryl]

Thanks, oz. Can I safely assume the "AU" in the instructions you attached means Australia since you're located there? So obviously those portions of the instructions would not apply to my ECU?
FWIW, I've printed out the instructions you attached and will take them with me to the shop that is going to install the SCT 6600 chip. The more information the better.

 

[Daryl]

Well, how'd it go?

Well, this little project got put on hold due to a $hit ton of repair$ and maintenance to one of our rental properties. That’s all budgeted in now so I can finally restart.
I have 2 new MotorCraft O2 sensors that the shop will tie into the AFR gauge so it finally serves a purpose other than an annoying light show! And, they will also install (and then tune if necessary) the Tuning Innovations chip that I’ve been holding onto for months now. I had to cancel last couple of appointments due to the hemorrhaging of money for the rental property , but they understood (very cool folks, the shops I use) and are available on fairly short notice.
So anxious now that I can’t wait till Monday morning to call, so leaving messages with both to get “first available” for the coming week ++

 

[duh09]

Well, this little project got put on hold due to a $hit ton of repair$ and maintenance to one of our rental properties. That’s all budgeted in now so I can finally restart.
I have 2 new MotorCraft O2 sensors that the shop will tie into the AFR gauge so it finally serves a purpose other than an annoying light show! And, they will also install (and then tune if necessary) the Tuning Innovations chip that I’ve been holding onto for months now. I had to cancel last couple of appointments due to the hemorrhaging of money for the rental property , but they understood (very cool folks, the shops I use) and are available on fairly short notice.
So anxious now that I can’t wait till Monday morning to call, so leaving messages with both to get “first available” for the coming week ++

I'm a bit confused by this.

That sensor is a standard narrowband OE replacement, which should not be tied into a AFR gauge. It should have its own wideband sensor that it is reading. It will always be a lightshow because its a AFR gauge and that's what they do and the only real time they are super useful is in dialing a tune in, and really then you need it datalogged to be able to review to make adjustments, and just to keep an eye on when going wide open just to make sure it's where it should be. Otherwise, it will be dancing around based on load and throttle and be a lightshow. If it's a narrowband AFR gauge, it's effectively useless and probably should still be using its own O2 sensor but a narrowband AFR gauge is 100% useless.

 

[Daryl]

I'm a bit confused by this.

That sensor is a standard narrowband OE replacement, which should not be tied into a AFR gauge. It should have its own wideband sensor that it is reading. It will always be a lightshow because its a AFR gauge and that's what they do and the only real time they are super useful is in dialing a tune in, and really then you need it datalogged to be able to review to make adjustments, and just to keep an eye on when going wide open just to make sure it's where it should be. Otherwise, it will be dancing around based on load and throttle and be a lightshow. If it's a narrowband AFR gauge, it's effectively useless and probably should still be using its own O2 sensor but a narrowband AFR gauge is 100% useless.

Hmm… well beyond my scope of understanding. I’ll let the shop tell me what’s up.

 

[Daryl]

Whatever tune is on the chip, it ain’t working:-(
My mechanic installed it per directions. Motors idle works surge then dump then motor would quit. He talked 3-4x with Ted. Says it smells running rich.

End result: send it back and he’ll check it out. So, reinstalled the original one, which my mechanic says “looks exactly like” the TI. And drove her home. Five hours sitting around the shop and I ended up getting 2 wires installed. Doh!

 

[95opal]

Whatever tune is on the chip, it ain’t working:-(
My mechanic installed it per directions. Motors idle works surge then dump then motor would quit. He talked 3-4x with Ted. Says it smells running rich.

End result: send it back and he’ll check it out. So, reinstalled the original one, which my mechanic says “looks exactly like” the TI. And drove her home. Five hours sitting around the shop and I ended up getting 2 wires installed. Doh!

Here's my hang up with TI.
Without catalogs of what's going on Ted is just taking shots in the dark with the crude verbal info you give him. You may be mailing this chip back and forth till he mails it and still without data logs how good could it be?
When I had my old HCI chipped by Lasota racing they would not tune your car remotely without buying a wideband and datalog software.
I just can't imagine a chip from TI will yield a proper tune. Maybe 1 in 100 shot

 

[ttocs]

as he said without datalogging he is just taking an educated guess and hoping for the best.

 

[Daryl]

Aces. Great, NOW I find out! Oh well, it’s not the end of the world and maybe (fingers crossed & hope of all hopes) he’ll make good on it.

Stay tuned… (no pun intended. Truly)

 

[joemomma]

He should be able to get you in the ballpark I would think - he's done a ton of these at this point. FWIW - I have no experience with TI or Ted, just what I have read.