optionizerSS
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Does it make sense to put either AFR's or GT40 heads on with the stock intake? From my latest research all other intakes will hit the hood or at a minimum require removing the strut tower brace?
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Yes because it’s helluva lot easier to upgrade the intake later than to pull the top end back off to do heads.
optionizerSS
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That was my thoughts but will I see much difference with just the heads? Found a set of GT40 3 bars. Supposedly they are fresh and ready to go for $500 but tried to call the guy last night and he didn't answer but may hold off and go with the AFR's and do it over winter.
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I think you run in to issues with ANY non-stock intake and the STB, but don't quote me on that.
Yeah, you’ll notice a difference. It will require a tune. Yes, you will be hamstrung by the stock intake BUT you’ll make more power with the AFR’s vs any stock, GT40 head regardless of which intake you have.
Pretty simple recipe to follow. That was likely a fox body so you’d have to do some minor weight reduction to match those times but very doable.
optionizerSS
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nice. way faster than i need to go in it but if i did all that with the stock cam i should be well into the 13's? Even with the stock intake should probably hit 13's?
Part of me wants to build a real nice motor with bigger numbers but part of me says 'leave it alone'...lol
Part of me wants to build a real nice motor with bigger numbers but part of me says 'leave it alone'...lol
Some is ok, more is better, excessive is perfect
That would put you into stock, Gen 1 Coyote territory and would be plenty for an interesting cruiser.
That would put you into stock, Gen 1 Coyote territory and would be plenty for an interesting cruiser.
Wmac
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Most ditch the stb when installing top-end upgrades. Its a pita when changing wires, plugs, even checking the oil.
Optionizer, take off the stock brace (8 bolts?) and drive it for awhile. You probably will not notice any difference with or without.
Here's some pics for you. Mock-up of stock stb with explorer intake. Cobra intake with Ford "Gt40" brace.
Optionizer, take off the stock brace (8 bolts?) and drive it for awhile. You probably will not notice any difference with or without.
Here's some pics for you. Mock-up of stock stb with explorer intake. Cobra intake with Ford "Gt40" brace.
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RAU03MACH
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is that the cobra brace on the left side
i have that on my 95 gt with a gt40 intake
i have that on my 95 gt with a gt40 intake
Wmac
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It was sold through Ford dealers as an accessory and their performance parts program (now frpp) for use with the tubular GT40 intake.
It may have originated on all of the 95 Cobra R's.
So yes, it fits all 4 of the GT 40 style intakes.
It may have originated on all of the 95 Cobra R's.
So yes, it fits all 4 of the GT 40 style intakes.
RAU03MACH
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i remember when i bought my gt 40 intake a long time ago from ford motorsports
they did not have any of those braces and none of the gts were going to fit
i ended up pulling it from a wrecked cobra that was in 96
they did not have any of those braces and none of the gts were going to fit
i ended up pulling it from a wrecked cobra that was in 96
optionizerSS
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So based on everything I am reading and hearing I think I have a game plan. For now just find and fix the AF leak, which I'm pretty sure are the intake gaskets. After we get back from our road trip I think I'll do the shift kit then that will be it until October or so when we put it away for winter. Winter I will start looking at heads, intake and new strut tower brace that will clear the intake. Will likely stick with the stock cam and AFR 185 heads and probably the Explorer intake. I MAY do a gear change to 3.73's but will likely wait another year to see how this works with the 3.27's. Another possibility would be a torque convertor. Nothing wild, maybe 2000 stall area. This will all depend on funds and I may change my mind but for now I think this will be the plan.
Contact TMoss and port that intake! Won’t regret it.
3.73’s with an automatic won’t be bad at all
3.73’s with an automatic won’t be bad at all
optionizerSS
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Factory GT one? The junk one? lol
The Explorer!
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Any idea what he charges for porting now?
And also, this is my new favorite quote:
Some is ok, more is better, excessive is perfect
And also, this is my new favorite quote:
Some is ok, more is better, excessive is perfect
Flade
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He doesn’t know what he is taking about. The explorer intake needs very small mods. it has 3 or 4 vacuum ports that need to be tapped and plugged. Otherwise it is bolt on. added GT40 heads and the Explorer intake to my son‘s 95. Spend an afternoon modifying the intake, super easy if you have the right taps and plugs ready. Next day we swapped the heads and intake.
Flade
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That is incorrect. 94/95 GTs came with the Shock Tower Brace from the factory. The 4.6 cars (96-98) did not. The stock brace will not clear the Explorer intake, but there are aftermarket braces that do. You do need the intake elbow. (I have one available if you need it). Stock valve covers work fine unless you change rockers. Stock Cam with a mild tune really wakes up with the heads, intake and gears.
RAU03MACH
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I still stand behind this intake
Best one ever made for 302
Best one ever made for 302
