What to do? what to do?

[justinschmidt1]

So ive got a 96 gt...its npi except for pi intake. Ive got pretty much every bolt on for the car. You can see my mods in my sig. I want more power. I was thinking about pi heads/cams but how much power would I realistically gain from that?. Then I was thinking if I was going to do a headswap, I might as well get aftermarket cams at the same time. Then I thought I would probably be better off saving my money and getting a blower. Im sure I would make alot more power with the blower.

What is the best route to go?. I would like to have a low 13 high 12 second street car.

 

[ck5.0]

Is your car a 5-speed or auto? I am assuming 5-speed. Your car and mine are nearly the same. When I did my PI Intake I did the cams as well. Doing the cams is cheap enough to be worth it. There is not really much that you need. Cam bolts and cams. I can loan you my anderson tool for the chain if you need it. Then skip the heads and save up for the blower. That is what my plan for my 96 is.

 

[steedastang]

if you plan on ending your project after this next mod i would say geet blown. If you plan to continue in the future i would say get a set of npi heads to port/polish and add blower cams. This will allow you to add a blower in the future while keeping a more blower friendly compression ratio. There are plenty of people that are willing to get rid of their npi's for cheap. Add work to the heads and you are sitting much better off than a pi swap.

-matt

 

[justinschmidt1]

my car is auto...I wanted to do the cams..but I dont want to do it myself and I dont know where I can get it done...Im just curious how much faster my car would be blown rather than p and p heads and cams. I would imagine I could make 350 whp with a blower ...probably be lucky to exceed 300 with the n.a combo.

 

[97gtconv.]

get some Drag springs, uppers and lowers and some drag radials

 

[justinschmidt1]

get some Drag springs, uppers and lowers and some drag radials

no offense..but whats that gonna do?...im auto..i cant launch my car?...whats the use of drag radials and drag springs if I cant launch and dont spin?...besides...Im getting her lowered..got to look good


Anyone want to do a camswap?

 

[Steven]

get some Drag springs, uppers and lowers and some drag radials

no offense..but whats that gonna do?...im auto..i cant launch my car?...whats the use of drag radials and drag springs if I cant launch and dont spin?...besides...Im getting her lowered..got to look good


Anyone want to do a camswap?

if you want to go high 12s low 13s, your going to need a stall.. stall = launch, launch = good suspension.. i run hawk racing springs, and no sway bar on my automatic.. and just stalling the stock stall it does pretty good

For me, i'm putting a set of PI heads, comp 270 cams, and PI FRPP intake.. and proceed for bolt ons.. once i hit a good solid low 300 or high 200, i'm throwing a 150 wet shot on it. Eventually i'll go blower on top of that top end, but nitrous is cheaper for the moment

 

[justinschmidt1]

get some Drag springs, uppers and lowers and some drag radials

no offense..but whats that gonna do?...im auto..i cant launch my car?...whats the use of drag radials and drag springs if I cant launch and dont spin?...besides...Im getting her lowered..got to look good


Anyone want to do a camswap?

if you want to go high 12s low 13s, your going to need a stall.. stall = launch, launch = good suspension.. i run hawk racing springs, and no sway bar on my automatic.. and just stalling the stock stall it does pretty good

For me, i'm putting a set of PI heads, comp 270 cams, and PI FRPP intake.. and proceed for bolt ons.. once i hit a good solid low 300 or high 200, i'm throwing a 150 wet shot on it. Eventually i'll go blower on top of that top end, but nitrous is cheaper for the moment

well I stall the stock stall and I can get sub 2.1 60 times with no spin.. I run pretty much the same 1/8 as you do...9.18 at 78 with a 2.093 60.

i realise suspension and a stall would help my 1/4 mile time by a lot...but I would rather focus on making more power before that.
I know a stall will help from a dig..but will a stall actually help me when Im already moving?...

 

[Steven]

Stall all around will help a 4.6 out.. you need to get the rpm's up on a 4.6 to go anywhere in the end.. build a top end for it man.. then go to a blower, it's worth it in the end

 

[justinschmidt1]

hmm...I think Ill just save up untill I can afford a blower..

 

[Jrgunn5150]

You'll still want cam's with that blower, but you are right, you'll easily blow past 350 with one, and be stuck below it without. Then you will have traction issues :hammer:

BTW, PI cams make nice blower cams too. Search the regional forum for member's, and maybe someone can help you out.

 

[ck5.0]

I think a stall would be a good way to go. It will help you all around. There has to be a shop somewhere near you that can do cams.

 

[mustangman111]

one word CRESSIDA... sike no... sell a kidney and work 40 hour weeks for 10 years and youll have it

 

[justinschmidt1]

anyone know how much I can get for a kidney?... I need like 4k haha

 

[nesqwick_05]

u can pick one up used for a good price (i got mine for 700) when i was looking for mine i saw 2 vortech kits,1 procharger and 1 paxton kit all priced under 1800, so just be on the look out. i would say to do the headswap whether you are going blown or not, u will like it i promise :dancing6:

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I got 1400 bucks for my used S Trim, minus injector's, pump, maf, or oil line. They can be found cheap.

 

[ripper]

There was a D1 for sale in our classifieds. With a PI headswap and a blower you will get to your numbers. I have a built PI motor and a p-1. Its a 12.40 car. BUT I have dished pistons which lowered my comp. to 9:1 so I can run more boost. Your comp. after the headswap will be 10:1. PI cams and even stage 1 cams are crap. Cams and intake are key to making good power from a 4.6. Next year im gona put a trickflow intake on and some radical cams.

 

[steedastang]

Saving for the blower is a god idea. Adding PI heads before would limit your boost potential (without blowing up). Like i said, unless you plan on a built short block go with worked npi's after the blower.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Saving for the blower is a god idea. Adding PI heads before would limit your boost potential (without blowing up). Like i said, unless you plan on a built short block go with worked npi's after the blower.

You're better off with a higher C/R and lower boost than vice versa. It makes the car more snappy off boost, and more powerful on less boost.

 

[nesqwick_05]

+1 and 10:1(would be higher but most of our motors grow old and loose compression i believe) isnt bad for boost considering stock is about 9.7:1 if i remember correctly. i would say do pi heads first and find a used blower next...