When do you need a cage?

RichV · Jun 29, 2012

Some of you guys may know MustangMatt, he's planning driving this on the street. This is extreme, but it would definitely not be in my thoughts to drive this anywhere but a track.

RichV · Jun 29, 2012

You're right, it used to be 11.99, but IIRC after the terminators were hitting sub 12 sec, the sanctioning bodies changed to 11.49 so you would not need a cage for a new vehicle. It just sux that you need to cage a new car to go run at the strip.

Knuckles@Empire · Jun 29, 2012

lol i hear yah i can imagine my head rattling around in there wouldnt be fun.

Knuckles

RichV · Jun 30, 2012

That would leave a mark!

96TANGERINEGT · Jun 30, 2012

knuckles4696 said:
lol i hear yah i can imagine my head rattling around in there wouldnt be fun.

Knuckles

wtf ? where is the monkey that climbs around that cage ............

Monster Mach · Jul 1, 2012

RichV said:
Bullshit. I watched a dude with a 5point harness hit his helmet on the steering wheel in a collision. You will move when hit, and it can be to any direction.

Steering wheel.... not cage.. a set up cage with enough space and placed properly and you wont hit... i have never hit my head on our late model race car

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96TANGERINEGT · Jul 1, 2012

Because race car .....

vermilion · Jul 1, 2012

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RichV · Jul 1, 2012

Monster Mach said:
Steering wheel.... not cage.. a set up cage with enough space and placed properly and you wont hit... i have never hit my head on our late model race car

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Right. My point is how much the belts can flex/stretch in a collision. If they cen flex enough to hit your head on a steering wheel which is waaaayyy further away then the closest bars, there is potential there to hit.

Do you race your late model car without a helmet? I've never hit my head either, not that I know of anyway. The padding plus helmet would be kinda tough to feel specialy being strapped down with a 5 point, in a race seat, with a head and neck restraint.

At Bandimere speedway (our local 1/4 mile), if you have a cage in your car, regardless if you run 11s or 20s, you have to wear a helmet. I went out there on import day and they had guys with caged 17sec monsters out there. lol

ttocs · Jul 1, 2012

it would seem to be that if that person was in a racecar, with a cage and hrns's that if his head can hit the steering wheel that there might be something wrong with that set up. If the straps have stretched that much I would have to think he was over due to replace them?

Monster Mach · Jul 1, 2012

RichV said:
Right. My point is how much the belts can flex/stretch in a collision. If they cen flex enough to hit your head on a steering wheel which is waaaayyy further away then the closest bars, there is potential there to hit.

Do you race your late model car without a helmet? I've never hit my head either, not that I know of anyway. The padding plus helmet would be kinda tough to feel specialy being strapped down a 5 point, in a race seat, with a head and neck restraint.

At Bandimere speedway (our local 1/4 mile), if you have a cage in your car, regardless if you run 11s or 20s, you have to wear a helmet. I went out there on import day and they had guys with caged 17sec monsters out there. lol

I dont hit my head with a helmet on lmao im 6'3".. i dont enter any track without my helmet and neck brace (been in wayy to many accidents to even think about not using a brace and helmet it saves your neck every time

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copmagnet · Jul 10, 2012

my track rules are-

first time out you can slide with anything, no helmet-no cage

second time
-you know what times you can hit, if your below 7.49 (1/8th) you have to have a cage.
-must have helmet.

justinschmidt1 · Jul 10, 2012

Ive always heard 11.49 you need a cage...obviously some tracks are more relaxed about this than other.

When I ran my car at cecil faster than 11.50 numerous times in a row nobody said a word to me.

If it was a real race day and not a test and tune I believe they would have said something or kicked me out but they tend to not give a shit/ theres so many cars there on a test and tune night they cant keep track.

My cars a street car and will never have a cage though, even if im trapping 140.

brian95 · Feb 7, 2013

if you run faster then 11.49 you need a 5 point most put 6 point roll bar all the way down to 10.00. 8 point cage needed when you hit 9.99 if the firewall in in stock location un modified. if motor set back an inch or more then 6 point only good until i believe 10.49. Also 2013 rule now says 2008 or newer mustang can run to 10.00 without a rollbar.

RichV · Feb 8, 2013

What is a 5 point? How does it attach?

I've only heard of even # point, that's where the cage meets the chassis.

4 point - 2 behind seats, 2 in trunk
6 point - 2 in front foot area, 2 behind seat, 2 in trunk
8 point - 2 in front foot area, 4 behind seat, 2 in trunk