Last night coming home from our company x-mas dinner I witnessed a 'race' on the hiway. A S197 V6 vs older BMW 5 series vs a late 90s riced out civic. The S197 stayed ahead, but just barely. Of course this was very stupid, in traffic, but they had a pretty good blast of open road and the 197 was ahead maybe by 1 car to the BMW, and a buslength to the Civic. My SVO or SN would have left all those fools pretty hard.