Window won't roll up

SN95_Project · Mar 23, 2022

I tried the "bash the door to see if the motor starts again" trick and it hasn't worked. My son and I pulled the motor and tested it directly on the battery and it works fine in both directions. I think it maybe the one-touch module. Not sure. When we turn the key on, the window goes all the way down. If we hit the "up" button while it's going down, it will stop but go back down again if we let up on it. We tried a new switch and that didn't work. We know the motor works, so all I can think of is the one-touch module. Any idea on how to test it? I took the cover apart and there aren't any burnt traces and continuity is good from what I can see. That said, I don't know how to test a relay.

Any advice is appreciated! Thanks!

ttocs · Mar 23, 2022

It could be the one touch relay, I think I happen have an extra next to me if you need one. It could also be the switch, test to see if it is showing power out on it.

KasperBPMC · Mar 29, 2022

Is there a remote start unit? I thought the DEI module converted the windows to one touch. I will say, this gen carries some of the same issues as the fox bodies, there is a crossover cable to that goes behind the dash to connect both doors for power windows/mirrors and locks. The connections for the dei module will most likley be hidden in the drivers kick panel

96blak54 · Mar 29, 2022

^ smart thinking

KasperBPMC · Mar 29, 2022

I went home and pressed my window button, i wouldnt call them 1 touch by no means. Thats more of a gm thing

KasperBPMC · Mar 29, 2022

If you car has black leather, the dei module makes the most sense. With anything dei, you can roll windows up/down, turn on ac, rear defrost. You could have a birds nest

ttocs · Mar 29, 2022

KasperBPMC said:
Is there a remote start unit? I thought the DEI module converted the windows to one touch. I will say, this gen carries some of the same issues as the fox bodies, there is a crossover cable to that goes behind the dash to connect both doors for power windows/mirrors and locks. The connections for the dei module will most likley be hidden in the drivers kick panel

DEI like viper/sidewinder?

KasperBPMC · Mar 29, 2022

ttocs said:
DEI like viper/sidewinder?

Viper for sure, i had a dei viper 2 way system on my 94 gt. Not too sure on the sidewinder though

ttocs · Mar 29, 2022

KasperBPMC said:
Viper for sure, i had a dei viper 2 way system on my 94 gt. Not too sure on the sidewinder though

ok that is what I thought you were talking about, now I just have no idea why? If you thought I that is what I meant when I said the one touch relay was bad that is an actual relay inside the door panel to do one touch up/down. I have the dei window module in my car with my alarm but I do not know of anyone else that has installed one.

KasperBPMC · Mar 29, 2022

More or less, i was trying to suggest something other than bashing the door as the thread starter mentioned. My guess is its a 430 window module. My stock switches in my car are more like momentary switches, as long as the button is held it will go.

KasperBPMC · Mar 29, 2022

SN95_Project said:
I tried the "bash the door to see if the motor starts again" trick and it hasn't worked. My son and I pulled the motor and tested it directly on the battery and it works fine in both directions. I think it maybe the one-touch module. Not sure. When we turn the key on, the window goes all the way down. If we hit the "up" button while it's going down, it will stop but go back down again if we let up on it. We tried a new switch and that didn't work. We know the motor works, so all I can think of is the one-touch module. Any idea on how to test it? I took the cover apart and there aren't any burnt traces and continuity is good from what I can see. That said, I don't know how to test a relay.

Any advice is appreciated! Thanks!

Pull your drivers side kick panel off and remove the lower cover off so you can see your collumn. If you see any weird small wires ziptied everywhere, its got a remote start, factory, it has no 1 touch module, its momentary

ttocs · Mar 29, 2022

KasperBPMC said:
More or less, i was trying to suggest something other than bashing the door as the thread starter mentioned. My guess is its a 430 window module. My stock switches in my car are more like momentary switches, as long as the button is held it will go.

the one touch relay looks like a standard relay that hangs down inside the drivers door panel. I promise it has nothing to do with dei. I am not saying the one touch relay might not still be the problem.

KasperBPMC · Mar 29, 2022

ttocs said:
the one touch relay looks like a standard relay that hangs down inside the drivers door panel. I promise it has nothing to do with dei. I am not saying the one touch relay might not still be the problem.

Thats my fault, 100%.

SN95_Project · Apr 3, 2022

Was out of town for the past week. Sorry for no response. Thank you for the suggestions. I'll look into it Sunday. It does have a security system of some sort but not sure on remote start. Thanks!

ttocs · Apr 3, 2022

the window module he is talking about would roll the windows up automatically when you arm it. After installing car audio security for decades I have installed 4, 2 of which were in my own cars.

SN95_Project · Apr 5, 2022

ttocs said:
It could be the one touch relay, I think I happen have an extra next to me if you need one. It could also be the switch, test to see if it is showing power out on it.

How much for the relay? I'm pretty sure at this point that is what I need.

ttocs · Apr 6, 2022

SN95_Project said:
How much for the relay? I'm pretty sure at this point that is what I need.

$25 sound fair?

SN95_Project · Apr 6, 2022

ttocs said:
$25 sound fair?

Easy day. Let me know where to send the money. Is that shipped? Just let me know either way. Is PayPal ok?

Flade · Apr 6, 2022

You are making this way too hard. The window motor needs to be replaced plain and simple. I have owned 6 SN95s included my 94 GT I bought new and the 4 I currently own. I have probably replaced over 15 window motors over the last 25 plus years. (convertibles rear Windows fail all the time for some reason). In EVERY case, the Windows went down fine but would not come up. Removed from the car they test perfect, but they won’t work under the weight of the window. It has nothing to do with the one touch relay, wiring etc.

SN95_Project · Apr 6, 2022

Flade said:
You are making this way too hard. The window motor needs to be replaced plain and simple. I have owned 6 SN95s included my 94 GT I bought new and the 4 I currently own. I have probably replaced over 15 window motors over the last 25 plus years. (convertibles rear Windows fail all the time for some reason). In EVERY case, the Windows went down fine but would not come up. Removed from the car they test perfect, but they won’t work under the weight of the window. It has nothing to do with the one touch relay, wiring etc.

I'd believe you, but as soon as the one-touch relay is plugged in, the motor goes down on it's own (no switch getting pushed). If it was the motor, I would think pressing the switch to make it go down would work, but not up.