94 no crank over .fuel pump runs with ing off

[9394stang]

When I tested the white wire with pink right buy battery that goes into the black wire that goes to the starter it is dead.
Then I took and checked for power down by clutch safety switch dead.
Then I check by ING switch under steering wheel dead.
I pulled the key ing out .
I tested the relay there was power in to spots on one of them and then the other relay only one post will snap a pick in a few hours of that one .

I do appreciate all of the help for sure.

 

[ttocs]

now you are testing the starter wire while the car is cranking right? That is the only time it will see power, as soon as the key goes to run it turns off. So if you are testing the relay inputs or the starter wire in the car you will need to do so while cranking.

 

[RAU03MACH]

Did he check the grounds on the front apprion by the battery
One of those grounds will kill the car

 

[9394stang]

While cranking thanks for the tip I'm getting power to that trigger wire.
I'm able to crank it because I have a red wire I hooked to my starter that I can hold to the battery

 

[ttocs]

ok glad I said that then as it means the ignition is fine if you have power there while cranking. So now we need to inspect/trace the wire that goes from the relay to the starter. It would probably be easiest to start at the starter and trace the wire back. Don't be afraid to get a little rough with it and pull/tug because if it is corroded inside you might not see it until it is pulled apart. If it pulls out of a harness with a light tug that was probably the problem

 

[9394stang]

Ok I will try that in a few hours awesome news.
Thank you

 

[9394stang]

I wonder if I should just pull the starter again and take that lead off and cut open the loom and inspect I do believe as I'm typing this I might even know where it's at.

 

[ttocs]

there is a single wire going to the solenoid. It could be as simple as the clip that is on the end that attaches to the starter is bad, or somewhere between the starter and the relay you should be able to find something, at least that is where the signs are pointing to

 

[9394stang]

Nope I totally understand

 

[9394stang]

Absolutely strange so I took my trigger wire I had hooked up off the starter and cut the lead to where I showed you on the test light it was getting power.
Install starter again and install the ing with key I had pulled out yesterday.
Same results as I had before turn ing and no crank .

 

[9394stang]

I had the key ing pulled in the test earlier and I had power at this spot .cut the old wire out and spliced in this just for a test before doing a nice job and now no power going to it.

 

[RAU03MACH]

sounds like a ground issue

 

[9394stang]

There is one ground in going to pick up a new label for when I was under it while you probably wrote this off the starter bolt I'm going to put a brand new one on .will report back this week .

 

[ttocs]

Absolutely strange so I took my trigger wire I had hooked up off the starter and cut the lead to where I showed you on the test light it was getting power.
Install starter again and install the ing with key I had pulled out yesterday.
Same results as I had before turn ing and no crank .

I have really no idea what you did other than putting the ignition back in and same results. It almost sounds like you tried to connect the trigger wire on the starter, to either pin 85/86 of the starter relay in the box that triggers the starter relay? If you did this I would take a quick look at all your fuses as you just tried to push the starter right of the key switch and hopefully just blew a fuse. That switch is not made to handle the current the starter solenoid needs to crank the starter.

I had the key ing pulled in the test earlier and I had power at this spot .cut the old wire out and spliced in this just for a test before doing a nice job and now no power going to it.

not sure what the 2nd pic is

 

[9394stang]

So stepping back to this morning when I had power to the starter on the black wire that goes to the small post on solenoid.
I had the ing that has the key in it completely out of the car like 30 feet away.

I have had for the last few weeks a red wire that I put on top of the small post on the solenoid that I was able to try and start the car with to be able to crank it over to test for spark and things was very helpful.
Now while I'm writing you I believe I just realized why I might have had power to the starter trigger because when I had the other wire hooked ont top of it when I whould crank it off the battery I bet it got its bolts and made it a false read.

Im definitely going to clean up a few grounds and add a few more just to be on the safe side and order a new ing key switch and ing box that goes wright underneath the key.

Sorry for the confusion

 

[ttocs]

the only ground I ever added to the motor was a short one from the frame directly to one of the bolts on the starter. It draws more current by far than anything on the car so it only makes sense to me to have one right there. I was able to add it with my shorty headers on the car with out too much trouble. Be sure to scrape any paint away from where it makes contact and while you are into the grounds it would not be a horrible idea to remove them, clean the connections and then make sure they are tight.

 

[95opal]

Here's a diagram of the ignition circuit. Hopefully it will help you out.

 

[9394stang]

Thank you.i ordered some ground straps plan to clean and replace all of them and a new ing switch and key ing.

Hopefully that takes care of it.After that the only thing left is clutch switch and checking all that wiring that you just sent I appreciate it .
Been a crazy fight with this car .

 

[9394stang]

Update.
Put new cylinder lock in and not really any different.Other than I believe my clock on the top off dash comes on now .
Clean a ground .put a new ground off the starter to the body.
Going to add a few more grounds now.
I checked the clutch safety switch I don't see any power going to that .