'98 GT A/C bypass question

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Hello fellow 2 valvers. I have a quick question, and of course, the internet doesn't provide one solid answer. Looking to bypass my a/c pump, as it is failing and squealing horrendously and I don't have the money (being a college student) to fix something I won't use but a few weeks out of the year. So my question for those who have done it is, what is the belt length to be used, and will I need to swap a smooth pulley for a grooved one? I don't want to delete the entire thing, because I may still use it at a later date. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
 

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not sure what that means. Did you try using some wire/string and running it and then measuring? It only takes 3-4 mins and is really the best way to do it.
 

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Update: I am SOL, so dummy pulley it is.
You’re not sol! Don’t pull it yet. Do you have a 3 bolt tensioner? If so, get a grooved idler puller from a newer crown Vic engine (like 06 or so), put that on, then grab a piece of string and measure the length. I don’t remember the length right off top of my head. You could do this in the parts store parking lot and keep trying belts until you get one that fits.
 
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I have I think a 4 bolt, not at the car right now so can't be certain. Non-PI engine. Haven't pulled anything apart yet, so I am all ears.
 

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I have I think a 4 bolt, not at the car right now so can't be certain. Non-PI engine. Haven't pulled anything apart yet, so I am all ears.

The npi is a 3 bolt cover, some of the pi engines were 1 bolt tensioners. Anywho, just do like a said above, swap the smooth idler pulley (not the tensioner pulley) for a grooved one. The measure it out with string and try a belt. You can do the whole job in the parking lot.
 
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Alright. Everywhere I looked said if i had a New Edge/ PI motor, do this and all done. But for the NPI, impossible. So I will go do that in the next couple of days, and come back with my findings. Thank you for your assistance, "Mr Secondary Timing Chain."
 

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Alright. Everywhere I looked said if i had a New Edge/ PI motor, do this and all done. But for the NPI, impossible. So I will go do that in the next couple of days, and come back with my findings. Thank you for your assistance, "Mr Secondary Timing Chain."

You’re very welcome. I am here to help when I can. I don’t know why the internet says it can’t be done, I’ve done it a few times. Had the old 98 timing cover in my car setup without power steering and with and without a/c.
 
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I have seen it done with taking the ps pump off, but being it's my daily for college, I'm not about to take that out. I guess I will return that dummy pulley once it arrives, and get my belt length sorted out.
 

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You’re very welcome. I am here to help when I can. I don’t know why the internet says it can’t be done, I’ve done it a few times. Had the old 98 timing cover in my car setup without power steering and with and without a/c.
are you saying that the net could be wrong? I mean if this is true I then things will just never be the same.
 

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