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[ttocs]

guys laser is not going to give you a warning to slow down as it doesn't go everywhere like the radar signal does. If your radar detector goes off for laser it means he just shot you. The chances of it picking up a different car being shot are VERY low...

The only way around laser that I know is K40 with the laser diffuser which I know for a fact works, but I do not know the legality of but know you are talking a $2k radar detector that will pay your ticket.

 

[Javi]

But just because you have a po po finder doesn't mean you can drive like an idiot.

Most people have the tendency to drive like dumba**es, cause they have the radar detector.
arent these illegal in some states?

 

[95PGTTech]

The radar detector will pick up the laser...when it's shooting you.
That's my point.

There is a reason V1s money back guarantee specifies radar only.

And it will also pick up the laser being directed on the car 1/2 mile in front of me, giving me plenty of warning.

It won't pick up the lazer hitting the car 50 feet in front of you, let alone a half mile. If it goes off, it's because you've been tagged. This is basic principles of physics here.

 

[DropTopPony]

But just because you have a po po finder doesn't mean you can drive like an idiot.

Most people have the tendency to drive like dumba**es, cause they have the radar detector.
arent these illegal in some states?

They are only illegal in Virginia and Wash D.C.

 

[DropTopPony]

The radar detector will pick up the laser...when it's shooting you.
That's my point.

There is a reason V1s money back guarantee specifies radar only.

And it will also pick up the laser being directed on the car 1/2 mile in front of me, giving me plenty of warning.

It won't pick up the lazer hitting the car 50 feet in front of you, let alone a half mile. If it goes off, it's because you've been tagged. This is basic principles of physics here.

Sure it will, your point makes the assumption that the cop gets a 100% accurate pinpoint shot on its target every time but in reality they are trying to hit a target or let that target ride into a beam that is generally @ up to 6ft wide and travels up to 2000ft. A quality radar detector like a V1 has been proven to be able to pick up these signals even around slight bends.

 

[Twista]

ccasion14: Droptop :notworthy: Your avatar

 

[ttocs]

The radar detector will pick up the laser...when it's shooting you.
That's my point.

There is a reason V1s money back guarantee specifies radar only.

And it will also pick up the laser being directed on the car 1/2 mile in front of me, giving me plenty of warning.

It won't pick up the lazer hitting the car 50 feet in front of you, let alone a half mile. If it goes off, it's because you've been tagged. This is basic principles of physics here.

Sure it will, your point makes the assumption that the cop gets a 100% accurate pinpoint shot on its target every time but in reality they are trying to hit a target or let that target ride into a beam that is generally @ up to 6ft wide and travels up to 2000ft. A quality radar detector like a V1 has been proven to be able to pick up these signals even around slight bends.

I say prove it as everything I was tought when I was selling them was lineof sight when it comes to t laser.

 

[95PGTTech]

The radar detector will pick up the laser...when it's shooting you.
That's my point.

There is a reason V1s money back guarantee specifies radar only.

And it will also pick up the laser being directed on the car 1/2 mile in front of me, giving me plenty of warning.

It won't pick up the lazer hitting the car 50 feet in front of you, let alone a half mile. If it goes off, it's because you've been tagged. This is basic principles of physics here.

Sure it will, your point makes the assumption that the cop gets a 100% accurate pinpoint shot on its target every time but in reality they are trying to hit a target or let that target ride into a beam that is generally @ up to 6ft wide and travels up to 2000ft. A quality radar detector like a V1 has been proven to be able to pick up these signals even around slight bends.

Get your info straight. Don't use RADAR numbers in a LIDAR argument.

At 1000ft, the cone of infrared light is no more than 3 feet wide. If you're within this three feet, it bounces off you, back to the pickup, and it divides it by two. It takes a few hundred examples over a third of a second, and it calculates your speed, very accurately.

It IS possible for the infrared light, some of them, to bounce off that car and onto your car, then find its way back to the pick up. But, as said, the pickup is taking hundreds of samples in a fraction of a second. Since it would take the light significantly longer (if we can use the term longer when referring to nanoseconds) to go between the two cars and back, the pickup computer is smart enough to throw these very few results out. Even so, you need to be within feet of the other car for this to happen. The chances of you getting hit even directly next to the car being shot and those beams making their way back to the pickup are infinitesimally small to begin with. You increase that distance to a few car lengths and you get the same kind of chances that the world actually ends on 2012.

Where as a RADAR gun puts out junk in all directions, constantly, the LIDAR only puts out in the cone when the trigger is depressed. That's how RADAR gets picked up, the flood of constant supply random beams. You can think of LIDAR as more of a "gun." If your detector picks up LIDAR, it's because you're hit. RADAR can be picked up around SOME turns simply because of the billion times higher quantity of light it's putting out. The law of averages say it is going to bounce off more items and hit your detector. That's why you drive past WalMart and the door sensors set off your V1 four hundred feet away.

The only 'proof' Valentine has is their own marketing, and no evidence to back it up. A more tell-tale sign is their refusal to pay LIDAR enforced tickets. If they feel so strongly about their product, why don't they, literally, put their money where their mouth is.

 

[Nick95GT]

The radar detector will pick up the laser...when it's shooting you.
That's my point.

There is a reason V1s money back guarantee specifies radar only.

And it will also pick up the laser being directed on the car 1/2 mile in front of me, giving me plenty of warning.

It won't pick up the lazer hitting the car 50 feet in front of you, let alone a half mile. If it goes off, it's because you've been tagged. This is basic principles of physics here.

Sure it will, your point makes the assumption that the cop gets a 100% accurate pinpoint shot on its target every time but in reality they are trying to hit a target or let that target ride into a beam that is generally @ up to 6ft wide and travels up to 2000ft. A quality radar detector like a V1 has been proven to be able to pick up these signals even around slight bends.

Get your info straight. Don't use RADAR numbers in a LIDAR argument.

At 1000ft, the cone of infrared light is no more than 3 feet wide. If you're within this three feet, it bounces off you, back to the pickup, and it divides it by two. It takes a few hundred examples over a third of a second, and it calculates your speed, very accurately.

It IS possible for the infrared light, some of them, to bounce off that car and onto your car, then find its way back to the pick up. But, as said, the pickup is taking hundreds of samples in a fraction of a second. Since it would take the light significantly longer (if we can use the term longer when referring to nanoseconds) to go between the two cars and back, the pickup computer is smart enough to throw these very few results out. Even so, you need to be within feet of the other car for this to happen. The chances of you getting hit even directly next to the car being shot and those beams making their way back to the pickup are infinitesimally small to begin with. You increase that distance to a few car lengths and you get the same kind of chances that the world actually ends on 2012.

Where as a RADAR gun puts out junk in all directions, constantly, the LIDAR only puts out in the cone when the trigger is depressed. That's how RADAR gets picked up, the flood of constant supply random beams. You can think of LIDAR as more of a "gun." If your detector picks up LIDAR, it's because you're hit. RADAR can be picked up around SOME turns simply because of the billion times higher quantity of light it's putting out. The law of averages say it is going to bounce off more items and hit your detector. That's why you drive past WalMart and the door sensors set off your V1 four hundred feet away.

The only 'proof' Valentine has is their own marketing, and no evidence to back it up. A more tell-tale sign is their refusal to pay LIDAR enforced tickets. If they feel so strongly about their product, why don't they, literally, put their money where their mouth is.

well said, lol looks like youve done your homework

 

[KWClutch]

My Escort has picked up laser plenty of times when I wasn't targeted. It sends a beam out that picks up laser in the detectors line of sight. But yeah you can pick up radar from much farther distances and it is true laser isn't an "always on" system but just because you pick up laser doesn't mean you're the one targeted. But if you get pick up "laser" you're either 1: He hit you and you're F'ed big time or 2: You better slow down 10 seconds ago because you're next.

 

[ttocs]

My Escort has picked up laser plenty of times when I wasn't targeted. It sends a beam out that picks up laser in the detectors line of sight. But yeah you can pick up radar from much farther distances and it is true laser isn't an "always on" system but just because you pick up laser doesn't mean you're the one targeted. But if you get pick up "laser" you're either 1: He hit you and you're F'ed big time or 2: You better slow down 10 seconds ago because you're next.

you detectors laser "line of sight" is that little black hole/lense with "LASER" above it. It will only pick up if the laser is shined inside that hole/lense. You could take a laser and shine it across the front of the car and it would not detect it unless it happens to reflect off of something and then into that hole/lense which as he said would be fairly minimal but could happen.

Now you could have been recieing junk signals as well I noticed that there is one convinience store in town that sometimes when I would go past it, I would get a laser reading. One day I pulled up and my buddy hopped out and as he went in the door, the automatic sensor opened the door for him, and set off my laser sensor..... I would say you would be more likely to get junk signals from stuff like this then reflections from an actual laser gun.


I think K40 will pay the ticket no matter what was used, but can't remember.

 

[CanaryGT]

Ill take my 9500ix anyday. The fact that my built in GPS lets me know of Red Light Cams ect and in Arizona there are a crap ton.

 

[ttocs]

ah but with those you get a picture to go with your fast driving award! I do not miss that part of az at all....

 

[DropTopPony]

The radar detector will pick up the laser...when it's shooting you.
That's my point.

There is a reason V1s money back guarantee specifies radar only.

And it will also pick up the laser being directed on the car 1/2 mile in front of me, giving me plenty of warning.

It won't pick up the lazer hitting the car 50 feet in front of you, let alone a half mile. If it goes off, it's because you've been tagged. This is basic principles of physics here.

Sure it will, your point makes the assumption that the cop gets a 100% accurate pinpoint shot on its target every time but in reality they are trying to hit a target or let that target ride into a beam that is generally @ up to 6ft wide and travels up to 2000ft. A quality radar detector like a V1 has been proven to be able to pick up these signals even around slight bends.

I say prove it as everything I was tought when I was selling them was lineof sight when it comes to t laser.

The proof is in the ownership and everyday real world usage. I have been alerted numerous times of radar and seconds later there is the officer sitting there in their hiding spot tagging individual cars.

 

[CanaryGT]

ah but with those you get a picture to go with your fast driving award! I do not miss that part of az at all....

Yeah AZ sucks.

 

[Steven]

My V1 picks up lasers. It has a designated sound/light alarm for it. I have no issue picking them up. The main thing is that you try to tell me that they are shooting me everytime? Load of crap. I'm by myself completely and on a completely clear pathway, where no one can hide. I ride along and about a half a mile up theres a poe poe coming the opposite way around the corner. The V1's pick up damn near 2 miles ahead. We don't have hills here, so its all flat. You can dispute it all you want, but I actually OWN one, and use it. Last time I checked reality > online.

 

[CanaryGT]

Mine picks up Laser as well but if a cop hits you with laser then it doesnt matter. Usually if your detector says laser it means, License and Registration

 

[ttocs]

The radar detector will pick up the laser...when it's shooting you.
That's my point.

There is a reason V1s money back guarantee specifies radar only.

And it will also pick up the laser being directed on the car 1/2 mile in front of me, giving me plenty of warning.

It won't pick up the lazer hitting the car 50 feet in front of you, let alone a half mile. If it goes off, it's because you've been tagged. This is basic principles of physics here.

Sure it will, your point makes the assumption that the cop gets a 100% accurate pinpoint shot on its target every time but in reality they are trying to hit a target or let that target ride into a beam that is generally @ up to 6ft wide and travels up to 2000ft. A quality radar detector like a V1 has been proven to be able to pick up these signals even around slight bends.

I say prove it as everything I was tought when I was selling them was lineof sight when it comes to t laser.

The proof is in the ownership and everyday real world usage. I have been alerted numerous times of radar and seconds later there is the officer sitting there in their hiding spot tagging individual cars.

Quit bringing a radar gun to a laser gun fight. YES radar goes everwhere so you can read them behind the gun if you want. LASER is line of sight. I donot care how much ya paid for your V1 it is not going to bend light. YES, If your radar goes off 99% of the time he SHOT YOU.




http://www.valentine1.com/laserhowto/

YOU CAN READ IT FROM TEH HOURSES MOUTH.

 

[95PGTTech]

My V1 picks up lasers. It has a designated sound/light alarm for it. I have no issue picking them up. The main thing is that you try to tell me that they are shooting me everytime? Load of crap. I'm by myself completely and on a completely clear pathway, where no one can hide. I ride along and about a half a mile up theres a poe poe coming the opposite way around the corner. The V1's pick up damn near 2 miles ahead. We don't have hills here, so its all flat. You can dispute it all you want, but I actually OWN one, and use it. Last time I checked reality > online.

And if the V1 was programmed to pick up radar signals and just set off the chime/light for radar to make you think it can pick up laser to back up their online claims, you'd be none the wiser.

I like the comments about the V1 sending out a beam of light to pick up laser signals. LOL.

 

[DropTopPony]

The radar detector will pick up the laser...when it's shooting you.
That's my point.

There is a reason V1s money back guarantee specifies radar only.

And it will also pick up the laser being directed on the car 1/2 mile in front of me, giving me plenty of warning.

It won't pick up the lazer hitting the car 50 feet in front of you, let alone a half mile. If it goes off, it's because you've been tagged. This is basic principles of physics here.

Sure it will, your point makes the assumption that the cop gets a 100% accurate pinpoint shot on its target every time but in reality they are trying to hit a target or let that target ride into a beam that is generally @ up to 6ft wide and travels up to 2000ft. A quality radar detector like a V1 has been proven to be able to pick up these signals even around slight bends.

I say prove it as everything I was tought when I was selling them was lineof sight when it comes to t laser.

The proof is in the ownership and everyday real world usage. I have been alerted numerous times of radar and seconds later there is the officer sitting there in their hiding spot tagging individual cars.

Quit bringing a radar gun to a laser gun fight. YES radar goes everwhere so you can read them behind the gun if you want. LASER is line of sight. I donot care how much ya paid for your V1 it is not going to bend light. YES, If your radar goes off 99% of the time he SHOT YOU.




http://www.valentine1.com/laserhowto/

YOU CAN READ IT FROM TEH HOURSES MOUTH.

I meant to say laser but its ok if you copied 95's line, Lidar is in fact just light and as you say not bendable BUT it is refract-able and unless used under perfect conditions not 100% fool proof. Light scatters in the slightest moisture IE rain,fog, humidity etc so its not impossible to think stray signals can occur. I know you want to think the laser is just like Star wars and its pin point accurate but that is not possible in real world applications because there are too many variables.