COP conversion

97LSxGT · Mar 28, 2012

is it worth it? or should i find a npi timing chain cover for the coil brackets? or just relocate them as well?

ive did some work with some COP trucks and know that sometimes they can be a PITA and expensive. did i mention expensive?

so give me your opinions.

also isnt there a conversion to use LSx coils?

JerZeyStangz · Mar 29, 2012

Check SVTPerformance, forum (SN95 Cobra). A guy called "The Red Monster" makes professional cop converion plug and play kits. I'm going to eventually go COP because when I put the supercharger on there, I dont want the wiring from the coil packs all in the way. Secondly there really isn't a benefit, from what I read its a waste spark system just like the coil pack system. The only real advantage with coil pack system is having better performance when your revving past 7500rpm, and none of us is doing that.

vermilion · Mar 29, 2012

i have the COP conversion from "the red monster". first hand ill tell you the quality is good. i dressed it up more. second theres no real performance edge in using the COP system. visually it cleans the engine bay. i am using a supercharged system. i use the existing space of the coil pack bracket as a means for the moroso breather can. i deleted the PCV. i only (my personal opinion)recommend that on a supercharged system also. our 96-98 PCM ignition isnt a weak point for revving over 7000 RPM as the 99-^. the coil on plugs do work. my combo was tuned to 575hp with the COP conversion. i do not rev past 6500.

JerZeyStangz · Mar 29, 2012

Good information Vermillion!

330CubeGt · Mar 29, 2012

Im going to be making the COP Conversion harness in the near future if i ever find the time, If you have a little time to wait i could make you one. Much less then the $150 Harness from SVTP but it will be splice in untill i can find the correct connector. Ive been searching for weeks to find the aftermarket plug so there plug and play but i can't find them anywhere...

joekd · Mar 29, 2012

330CubeGt said:
Im going to be making the COP Conversion harness in the near future if i ever find the time, If you have a little time to wait i could make you one. Much less then the $150 Harness from SVTP but it will be splice in untill i can find the correct connector. Ive been searching for weeks to find the aftermarket plug so there plug and play but i can't find them anywhere...

Try these guys, have found a lot of obscure stuff through them in the past

Now I know the 4v guys need the valve covers, COPS, etc.

For a 2v is it as easy as remove plug wires, remove coils, run new harness, connect COP's to motor, connect harness to COP's, done?

vermilion · Mar 29, 2012

i have reliable spark. it was a direct plug and play harness.

97LSxGT · Apr 1, 2012

that is pretty damn clean set up vermilion. im definetly gonna look into it before long since im about to nose dive into my build and do plan on a supercharger pushing plenty of boost haha

and 330cubegt you can pm me and let me know when you do and well talk

97LSxGT · Apr 1, 2012

joekd said:
Try these guys, have found a lot of obscure stuff through them in the past

Now I know the 4v guys need the valve covers, COPS, etc.

For a 2v is it as easy as remove plug wires, remove coils, run new harness, connect COP's to motor, connect harness to COP's, done?

pretty much yeah i havent messed with a COP car/truck since high school bc i was chasing a coil demon(guy wouldnt buy all 8..just 1 at a time lol)..it was a 2v PI truck

vermilion · Apr 1, 2012

FWIW, you can buy COP from ebay all 8 for 100$. they work. im proving it here.

vermilion · Apr 1, 2012

330CubeGt said:
Im going to be making the COP Conversion harness in the near future if i ever find the time, If you have a little time to wait i could make you one. Much less then the $150 Harness from SVTP but it will be splice in untill i can find the correct connector. Ive been searching for weeks to find the aftermarket plug so there plug and play but i can't find them anywhere...

i think splicing in that connection is alot better. i dont have problems with said harness but i believe in solid hard wiring.

97LSxGT · Apr 1, 2012

vermilion said:
FWIW, you can buy COP from ebay all 8 for 100$. they work. im proving it here.

hell i got lucky the motor i bought came with all 8..i may buy 1 bc the way the guy hoisted it in his truck it messed up one..but i still think its usable

joekd · Apr 1, 2012

What are you guys using for a power steering bracket since the OEM one has the coil pack mount on it?

Willis_98GT · Apr 16, 2012

I have the red monster harness also. I always had trouble with the #4 boot wiggling its self up off of the spark plug and causing misfires back when i had wire ignition. It never made any sense, tried 3 sets of wires and all kinds of troubleshooting.

I went cop so i could bolt the coils down to my pi manifold and know that the coil would never come up again.

Has been running flawlessly for me ever since i had the new setup up and now building this other one im working on right now im sure that it will work just fine.

As far as the bracket i just have it sitting on my motor without the coil on it, i plan to make something fancy for the ps resivor later on. not really on my list right now.