Hey guys i need some advice!!!!

stang4u2nv · Nov 29, 2007

ok so about a year ago i went ahead and installed a fully built G force T5 and man the transmission is a freaking rock, super awesome, well the same day i bought a Kustom clutch stage 3 and it is supposed to withstand like 650 ft/tq and it is a 26 spline inputshaft clutch as well as the tranny. The weird thing is that the guys at Promotion Powertrain told (that is where i bought everything btw) they told me that i can't do burnouts, like everyother mustang by pressing the brakes and that i needed to get a line lock unit, this way freeing up the rear tires thus being able to do a burnout. So i go to the power festival at moroso and as i'm doing my burnout (i know i'm a retard) which i shouldn't have done of course the clutch overheated and it started to stink bad and as i'm doing down the track it starts to slip badly. that sucked as i pulled a 16.9 in the quarter wowow. I got pissed and let it cool down and this time i don't do a burnout and the clutch works flawlessly... how is it possible that i can't do a burnout with such an expensive clutch????400$btw everyday driving is awesome with this clutch and racing it never slip and it grabs superhard but i just can't do a burnout so ????

Stangbangin · Nov 29, 2007

I don't see what doing a burn out with a linelock or not has to do with smokin your clutch?? :dunno: Either way your spinning the rear tires whether the front wheels are locked or not. I can see over heating your clutch from riding it to me into a burn out but I dunno what they meant. As far as your expensive clutch slipping probably has to do with the materials it was made with and the temp they end up getting to before they slip.

Paul · Nov 29, 2007

If you're spinning a clutch designed to handle 650 ft lbs with a stock motor, then I would say the clutch is junk and you paid way too much.

Paul.

95Grandtouring5.0 · Nov 29, 2007

Paul said:
If you're spinning a clutch designed to handle 650 ft lbs with a stock motor, then I would say the clutch is junk and you paid way too much.

Paul.

Bingo, they screwed you on the clutch.

stang4u2nv · Nov 29, 2007

Well I'm sorry but i disagree because after the car cooled down i made another pass and i took it off the line with the 175 shot and the freaking thing just jumped off the like and this is with mickey's in the back, the clutch did hook and it does hook great but what happened was that i think it overheated during the burnout and then just slipped down the track, i just don't see why it would over heat.. this clutch grabs so hard it is almost like my rear end wants to break or something it really hits hard when i dump the clutch. If i go street racing i could race as many times as i want and the more i race the harder it grabs, f**k i think it overheated....

Schiffy · Nov 29, 2007

stang4u2nv said:
Well I'm sorry but i disagree because after the car cooled down i made another pass and i took it off the line with the 175 shot and the freaking thing just jumped off the like and this is with mickey's in the back, the clutch did hook and it does hook great but what happened was that i think it overheated during the burnout and then just slipped down the track, i just don't see why it would over heat.. this clutch grabs so hard it is almost like my rear end wants to break or something it really hits hard when i dump the clutch. If i go street racing i could race as many times as i want and the more i race the harder it grabs, f**k i think it overheated....

Well if you're going to disagree with them, then why did you post up, and ask?
I agree... if you can explain to me what having a line loc in the car, and overheating the clutch has to do with each other, I would LOVE to hear it. Either way you're spinning the back tires, the only thing is with a line loc is it locks the front end... i could see brake issues, but not clutch issues... I think you got shafted.

AaRoN · Nov 29, 2007

stang4u2nv said:
Well I'm sorry but i disagree because after the car cooled down i made another pass and i took it off the line with the 175 shot and the freaking thing just jumped off the like and this is with mickey's in the back, the clutch did hook and it does hook great but what happened was that i think it overheated during the burnout and then just slipped down the track, i just don't see why it would over heat.. this clutch grabs so hard it is almost like my rear end wants to break or something it really hits hard when i dump the clutch. If i go street racing i could race as many times as i want and the more i race the harder it grabs, f**k i think it overheated....

my stock clutch, w/167k on it, has never overheated. even during a burnout. do you have the clutch pushed in during the burnout?

Paul · Nov 29, 2007

I think this is probably just another worthless post by Stang4u2nv to tell everyone how awesome his super fast racecar is. :

Paul.

95Grandtouring5.0 · Nov 29, 2007

It makes no sense. My king cobra clutch will sit and roast the tires all day long even if you are power braking. Having Line-locs does help, because it takes the back brakes off and lets the engine go easier because its not fighting the brakes, but over heating after doing one burn out at the track? Thats just retarded.

Schiffy · Nov 29, 2007

Paul said:
I think this is probably just another worthless post by Stang4u2nv to tell everyone how awesome his super fast racecar is. :

Paul.

I thought i was the only one who noticed this trend.

stang4u2nv · Nov 29, 2007

Man freaking Paulie here just can't say shit worth a freaking pennie... Well maybe i did get screwed over by this people but it was my first time buying a damn clutch and you guys are right when i had the stock clutch in my 87 gt (rest in peace) i could do great burnouts at the track iand i never had this problem.... Well the guy there said something about the rear brakes grabbing and making the clutch overheat and i said ok i won't do burnouts but whenever it is time for me to buy a new clutch i'll get something like a mcleoud springless like a stage 4 or something.... i guess i lose....

stang4u2nv · Nov 29, 2007

Listen guys this is my thread if you guys are going to bash at me then just don't write anything and ignore my threads, i would like advice from people who are willing to help and or explain something. I hope rycleff would be here so he could see that i'm not the one that picks shitty fights over opinions.... Paulie you are

utofcloset: and also if you don't mind :gtfo: :gtfo: :gtfo:

AaRoN · Nov 29, 2007

i didn't come in here to bash you. sorry if you got the wrong impression.

Some of these threads have been gettin' WAY too heated lately ;D

stang4u2nv · Nov 29, 2007

I'm not talking about you Aaron, i'm talking about Paul.....

Schiffy · Nov 30, 2007

How much Horsepower are you making? if you're not making anymore than 300/300 then just buy a King Cobra HD Clutch. why would you buy a Mcleoud stage 4 if you're not pushing 500 to the wheels? I may be wrong, but i doubt very, VERY seriously, if you ran a 16 second pass, EVEN if the car was acting wierd, and the clutch was slipping or whatever, you're not making near enough power to buy a Mcleoud clutch. thats even more of a waste of money than the screwed up clutch you have in the car now.

IceMan · Nov 30, 2007

If you have an adjuster on the firewall make sure that it is adjusted properly... if it is out of wack it might slip a bit...

95Grandtouring5.0 · Nov 30, 2007

stang4u2nv said:
Listen guys this is my thread if you guys are going to bash at me then just don't write anything and ignore my threads, i would like advice from people who are willing to help and or explain something. I hope rycleff would be here so he could see that i'm not the one that picks shitty fights over opinions.... Paulie you are utofcloset: and also if you don't mind :gtfo: :gtfo: :gtfo:

I gave you my honest opinion and you told me that I was basically wrong. If you don't want people's opinion then don't ask for it. And I'm not saying that Paul was justified by his statement, but he also told you the clutch was junk.

stang4u2nv · Nov 30, 2007

I didn't say i don't want your opinion but it could be something like my firewall adjuster like somebody else said why does it have to be that the screwed me over which is a possibility but who knows and I did do a 16 sec pass but i also did a 12 sec pass which was the last pass of the day after the clutch cooled down so and yea i got more than 300 horsepower with the nitrous. I got a 175 dry shot so i think i'm over 300 and god knows about torque lol.....W.E

Schiffy · Nov 30, 2007

stang4u2nv said:
I didn't say i don't want your opinion but it could be something like my firewall adjuster like somebody else said why does it have to be that the screwed me over which is a possibility but who knows and I did do a 16 sec pass but i also did a 12 sec pass which was the last pass of the day after the clutch cooled down so and yea i got more than 300 horsepower with the nitrous. I got a 175 dry shot so i think i'm over 300 and god knows about torque lol.....W.E

ok, ok, ok... here's why I think you got screwed over, short and sweet... if they sold you a clutch and TOLD you not to do a burnout without installing a line loc(which is for the brakes, not the clutch) then i would have thought to myself how that seemed really fishy.

ryclef331 · Nov 30, 2007

Ok ladies...cut the bullshit or I'm cleaning up the thread like it never happened...

AS for the CLUTCH. Should it have slipped? No but here is why it may have and also WHY you SHOULD have a line lock with sticky tires....

READ mickey thompson's tech site on the burnout procedures. It says...Begin you burnout and sustain you desired rpm/wheel speed until the tires begin to grab and drag the motor down (this means they're getting sticky and grabbing harder). Now, if you're doing this with the clutch dump and foot brake...the BRAKES are dragging the motor down as well SO....you're not getting a PROPER ACCURATE BURNOUT as opposed to the rear brakes NOT holding the motor back which would make for a longer burnout until it begins to bog. Make sense? It takes more power to over come the friction of the tires against the ground and the friction of the brakes than JUST the tires alone. Once you feel the motor start to bog, release the line lock, and ROLL OUT of the burnout ON THE GAS! Don't just throw the clutch in and drive it up. You'll pick up more shit on the tires that way.

I think you cable might be slightly outta adjustment combined with the initial stomp of the brake to catch the car from rolling could have caused it to haze the clutch. Now, I HAVE done TONS of burnouts before my G-Force/Clutchmasters setup and with it and had zero clutch issues with my M/T's. It might just be a bunk clutch...but then again, they could have a reason for it.