good luck to anyone with a auto trying to install them.. it was a big pain in the ass job.. it got to the point i had the motor sitting on the sway bar, and the K member hanging down below.. took me from 3-10:30 wednesday and 10 in the morning to 10 at night.. just to get the LT's in and the K member and motor sitting back up.. and i still have to put the suspension together in the front, and make a mid pipe for it.. thankgod i have a 5 day vacation. EVERYTHING fought me, name it, it was a pain. The passenger side was enough to just make you want to beat your self with a hammer.. and my X pipe isn't going to work out like i had hoped, so that babys going to have to go. This was a big job.. i dont suggest it to the light hearted. Unless you have serious tools like i do, find someone that does. i'll post up some pictues of it later on today.. oh well, the sound should be worth it