Is it worth it?

[g36 monkey]

Yes, FI is the way to go. I only built the motor because I'm a fan of n/a. These blocks and cranks are incredibly strong though.

 

[justinschmidt1]

I'd shy away from the fox. Too much work to get it street legal. The Cobra listing won't come up for me.

Justin - My 100% stock 3.8L (2000) dyno'd 160/200 @ wheels the first time I strapped it to the rollers. It had a touch over 100,000 miles on it at that point. From what I've seen it's on par with most other V6s of that generation. Modified changes the game. The V6 with "all the bolt ons" will scoop up a whopping 5-7 rwhp for a thousand dollars spent. Better money is spent on forced induction for those motors.

Wow that bad huh? Then again bolt ons don't do that much with the v8s either lol.


But 160 rwhp? Ive seen npi cars do like 190-200 rwhp in stock form and even some guys showing 200-210 (but that seems a bit much to me)and 260-280 tq. Nothing special but certainly a large increase over 160/200.

So I don't see how your statement that a 99-04 3.8 dynos the same HP or even higher as a npi is accurate is all.

 

[g36 monkey]

[MENTION=10830]MustangChris[/MENTION] made like 194 in his NPI with full bolt ons? (not trying to be a douche Chris, just making a statement)

 

[justinschmidt1]

[MENTION=10830]MustangChris[/MENTION] made like 194 in his NPI with full bolt ons? (not trying to be a douche Chris, just making a statement)

Manual? What bolt ons? What dyno?

I mean feel free to search for npi dyno sheets on Google...they're out there.... not just making it up lol.

Either way, I've never ever heard of a npi dyno being less than 160 HP lol

 

[Orange 94]

With my 4.2 N/A I did 199hp and i believe just a bit more tq like 210? I'd have to look at the sheet again.

 

[MustangChris]

yup.

1996 NPI:
intake+filter
FRPP Ceramic coated shorties
bassanni catted x pipe
flowmaster cat back
spec stage 2 clutch
hurst short throw shifter
T-45 transmission
screamin deamon coils
taylor 9mm wires
bousche 4 prong magic spark plugs
4.10:1 gears
Eaton LSD diffy
moser 31 spline axles
FRPP diffy girdle
FRPP aluminum driveshaft
suspension upgrades here and there
piggy back UD pullies (3 pulley set)

Dyno Jet
max power: 194.90
max torque: 256.03

1/4 Mile (at ~6,000 ft. altitude)
15.5 @ 89 MPH

Additional notes:
OEM Fuel system
OEM TB+plenum

 

[justinschmidt1]

So basically intake and exhaust haha

No tune?

Who knows what that actually adds on a npi turd...but there's lots of guys saying their stock npi turds made 190-210 on a dynojet stock I believe. If I was home id get the info

 

[g36 monkey]

on 93 octane I'd beliebe it lol. I think Ferocious was at 150 or so with his

 

[justinschmidt1]

on 93 octane I'd beliebe it lol. I think Ferocious was at 150 or so with his

The hell does he have a auto on 7 Cylinders on a mustang dyno lol


93 octane doesnt do anything without a tune though

 

[MustangChris]

I ran mid-grade in my mustang. it called for low-grade, but that's because our numbers are nutty here in Colorado. lol.

 

[justinschmidt1]

I ran mid-grade in my mustang. it called for low-grade, but that's because our numbers are nutty here in Colorado. lol.

Colorado dynos don't count lol

 

[Rizkit32]

That's cool, I don't know if I'm ready to throw out that money for such little performance gains. At what point does a car have too many miles, as in reliability is Questionable? I know if its taken care of it'll run forever and all that jazz, but for a used car what should I look for?

 

[g36 monkey]

Mustangs have very stout reliable motors. Justin had roughly 400 horse for years on stock internals.

You can boost the V6's out to about 400 on stock internals as well.

It's all in the tune and keeping a safe a/f so you don't get detonation.

 

[LilRoush]

But 160 rwhp? Ive seen npi cars do like 190-200 rwhp in stock form and even some guys showing 200-210 (but that seems a bit much to me)and 260-280 tq. Nothing special but certainly a large increase over 160/200.

So I don't see how your statement that a 99-04 3.8 dynos the same HP or even higher as a npi is accurate is all.

I've seen many NonPI dyno 150-160.