Pi cams

Discussion in '96-04 - 2V Specific' started by voidfinger, Jun 15, 2007.

  1. voidfinger

    voidfinger Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys. One quick question. Say that i had a bone stock 4.6 npi and installed pi cams in it with out the pi intake. Would i pick up anything?

    Would would be a good estimate of the added fly horse power and the wheel horse power? Thanks
     
  2. spitfirees20

    spitfirees20 New Member

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    EDITED: dont be rude to other members please.
     
  3. scarface

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    you would gain a bit, but as cheap and easy as the pi intake is, you should do both to take full advantage.
     
  4. spitfirees20

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    why was mine edited, who in their right mind would go through all of the trouble to do the pi cams and not do the simple intake swap? that doesn't even make sense.
     
  5. scarface

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    because we are a forum for people to ask questions and not feel flamed about doing it....had you worded it like you just did, I would not have edited your post.
     
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    alright, makes sense, sorry about that :comando:
     
  7. scarface

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    NP bud O0
     
  8. 1996mustangGT

    1996mustangGT Well-Known Member

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    dunno depends on the diffrence of the camshaft grinds i think
     
  9. voidfinger

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    just for reference, i have the pi intake on my car right now. Only thing is that if it gets totalled out i won't get it back. I just got a set of pi cams sitting at the house. Thats why i asked. thanks
     
  10. 1996mustangGT

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    are you still thinking about the 5.4 triton...?
    if so i would keep the cams and intake and oyu'd probally get
    more outta selling them both than individualy...
    just a thought
     
  11. scarface

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    put them in then O0
     
  12. DropTopPony

    DropTopPony Administrator Staff Member Admin SN95 Supporter

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    you would still gain 12-15 rwhp with the npi intake...i've actually seen that dyno chart before way back in the day before we knew how restrictive the intake really was. We were brainwashed to think the heads were the 100% restriction compared to the PI engines so we were swapping cams not intakes...boy were we all surprised when those guys on TCCOA did the PI intake swap.

    did you crash your car?
     
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    yea , my girl friend hit me in the rear going like 30 and it knocked me into the car in front of me.....damn nissan brakes locked up.........told her to watch the fucken road and not f with the radio, but o well.

    Yea the body shop called and it looks like they can fix it....but the estimate is way off.... for instance

    the insurance said that my "original ford" cobra bumpers replaced and painted would cost : 3XX for the front, and 2XX for the back..... cheapest i found the "original ford" stuff was 7XX for the front and 4XX for the rear.

    Well i don't know about the rest....just got my fingers cross.
     
  14. MustangMatt96GT

    MustangMatt96GT Well-Known Member

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    If I were you, I would do the PI intake to compliment the cams! Its worth the extra money to use with those cams!
     
  15. LI98GT

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    For me the PI cams were worth more than the PI intake. The cams were ~12-15rwhp and the PI intake was ~7rwhp. To the point above, I did them in stages as you don't have to remove the intake to get at the cams and they don't get in the way, which is what I did. The old NPI intake stayed in place till I had the money to update it with the PI version. Shown below.... Man, I went so far, wish I went all the way and did the full headswap then.


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  16. scarface

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    he already has the intake installed, incase you guys missed that part.
     
  17. voidfinger

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    Yea just seeing what it would gain on a stock npi car. Just in case and to see if it was worth the time and effort of swapping ya know. anyway i don't think they are totalling my car so that is a pretty good thing. :)
     
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    will PI cams work with stock NPI springs?
     
  19. LI98GT

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    Yes. The springs in the NPI heads work with the PI cams, no problem.
     
  20. scarface

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    right and wrong...they will work, BUT you need to change to the PI springs to take full advantage of the higher rev abilities (limiter must be raised also) you cant tach the stock npi valve springs out that high.