PI intake swap question....(Sorry)

[sam92lx]

Can I use my stock 98 water pump nipple? I read where you can use them...IF not can I find them at the parts store??



also...where can i find a 180 thermostat for my 4.6?


scott

 

[96gtchinook]

yes, i even used heater hose to lay in the valley there to hook up to the back drivers side connect. There is no need to change out that nipple.

 

[Pennywise2]

Hey Scott the water pump nipple is the same part number for 96-04 and you don't need
a new one unless yours leaks.I however put two new o-rings on the nipple.
You will need a PI coolant tube though because the PI intake is much taller
than the non-pi intake and the non-pi tube is in the way.
You can get a 180* thermostat here > http://napaautoparts.com

 

[joekd]

When I did my swap I changed the tube to the PI style and just swapped the nipple while I had it apart, they are so cheap that I couldn't justify not doing them

 

[DropTopPony]

the 96/97 and half of the 98's are 1 style and the later half of 98 is the same as the PI equipped cars.

 

[sam92lx]

Thanks guys...I have the coolant tube just waiting on my PI intake which should be here later this week. I just didn't wanna spend $15 on shipping for a $9 water nipple is the reason asked.

 

[Twista]

Thanks guys...I have the coolant tube just waiting on my PI intake which should be here later this week. I just didn't wanna spend $15 on shipping for a $9 water nipple is the reason asked.

Your doing the RTV method correcT?

Im waiting on $500 so i can buy the complete kit. Let us know how your swaps goes and can you get a before and after video of your car =]

 

[Pennywise2]

Thanks guys...I have the coolant tube just waiting on my PI intake which should be here later this week. I just didn't wanna spend $15 on shipping for a $9 water nipple is the reason asked.

Your doing the RTV method correcT?

Im waiting on $500 so i can buy the complete kit. Let us know how your swaps goes and can you get a before and after video of your car =]

http://www.sn95haven.com/index.php/topic,154.0.html

 

[Pennywise2]

Thanks guys...I have the coolant tube just waiting on my PI intake which should be here later this week. I just didn't wanna spend $15 on shipping for a $9 water nipple is the reason asked.

Your doing the RTV method correcT?

Im waiting on $500 so i can buy the complete kit. Let us know how your swaps goes and can you get a before and after video of your car =]

http://www.hiperformancesolutions.com/aboutus.html

 

[sam92lx]

Thanks guys...I have the coolant tube just waiting on my PI intake which should be here later this week. I just didn't wanna spend $15 on shipping for a $9 water nipple is the reason asked.

Your doing the RTV method correcT?

Im waiting on $500 so i can buy the complete kit. Let us know how your swaps goes and can you get a before and after video of your car =]

No, I bought NPI intake gaskets.

 

[SnakedMark8]

You need to use the PI gaskets. That way you only have two small areas that need rtv vice all 8 intake ports. If for some reason you do have a leak with the PI gaskets it will only leak coolant outside the engine and not into any of the intake ports. I've done it this way for years and haven't had a problem yet.

$500 for a complete kit, that's a little high. Mine go for just over $300.

 

[dafizuck]

I believe the $500 one is the livernois performance one that eliminates the use of rtv. I picked up my 180* thermostat from steeda.com. Stant is the company I believe.

 

[joekd]

You need to use the PI gaskets.

Wrong, myself and many others are using non-pi gaskets and they work just fine.

 

[SnakedMark8]

I believe the $500 one is the livernois performance one that eliminates the use of rtv. I picked up my 180* thermostat from steeda.com. Stant is the company I believe.

Oh ok, that makes sense now.

You need to use the PI gaskets.

Wrong, myself and many others are using non-pi gaskets and they work just fine.

There's nothing wrong with my statement. You can use either set of gaskets but he preferred way is with the PI. As I also stated the reason for this is because less can go wrong with using the PI over the non PI due to having 8 intake ports that have to be completely sealed vice 2 coolant passages that only need a half inch of rtv to keep the coolant from leaking outside the engine. Whereas with the 8 intake ports you take the chance in having a pretty sizeable vacuum leak.

 

[sam92lx]

It's done...ran into a few problems though. After getting intake back on had some fluid get into a few of the cylinders..more than i thought. So we pulled the the plugs and turned it over a few times...(yes we drain the car). Now my question is I have a spit and sputter at idle and only at idle. Driving it runs awesome no hesitation all the way to 6k. Could I have fouled a few plugs?? Vaccum leak??I haven't had a chance to look since it's be raining.. Just asking question before I tackle it again. Thanks.

btw...I can tell a difference from the swap...I fell it more in 3rd & 4th b/c of my 4.10's. But all in all...taking it off and on took us about 1:15 mins or so.

 

[Twista]

It's done...ran into a few problems though. After getting intake back on had some fluid get into a few of the cylinders..more than i thought. So we pulled the the plugs and turned it over a few times...(yes we drain the car). Now my question is I have a spit and sputter at idle and only at idle. Driving it runs awesome no hesitation all the way to 6k. Could I have fouled a few plugs?? Vaccum leak??I haven't had a chance to look since it's be raining.. Just asking question before I tackle it again. Thanks.

btw...I can tell a difference from the swap...I fell it more in 3rd & 4th b/c of my 4.10's. But all in all...taking it off and on took us about 1:15 mins or so.

Does the exhaust sound cammy and real hollow? I had that sound when i put my nonpi back together because i left off a vacuum plug.

How long did you wait for the RTV to cure? Im hoping my kit is here by friday :headbang:


=] GRATS! Get her fixed.

edit:

98 GT - Pi Intake, A/C, Heater, Pwr Windows, Pwr Locks, 15+MPG, & 145rwhp+. :notworthy:

 

[sam92lx]

It's done...ran into a few problems though. After getting intake back on had some fluid get into a few of the cylinders..more than i thought. So we pulled the the plugs and turned it over a few times...(yes we drain the car). Now my question is I have a spit and sputter at idle and only at idle. Driving it runs awesome no hesitation all the way to 6k. Could I have fouled a few plugs?? Vaccum leak??I haven't had a chance to look since it's be raining.. Just asking question before I tackle it again. Thanks.

btw...I can tell a difference from the swap...I fell it more in 3rd & 4th b/c of my 4.10's. But all in all...taking it off and on took us about 1:15 mins or so.

Does the exhaust sound cammy and real hollow? I had that sound when i put my nonpi back together because i left off a vacuum plug.

How long did you wait for the RTV to cure? Im hoping my kit is here by friday :headbang:


=] GRATS! Get her fixed.

edit:

98 GT - Pi Intake, A/C, Heater, Pwr Windows, Pwr Locks, 15+MPG, & 145rwhp+. :notworthy:

I don't think its a vaccum line...I'll be changing plugs this weekend. I gave the silicone about 10mins and dropped on the intake. FYI, check all the little gasket for the thermostat on the bottom side. I didn't have had to pull the intake back off and cleaned it up real good. I also laid down a bead of silicone around them as well.

funny sig...lol I updated it.

 

[Twista]

It's done...ran into a few problems though. After getting intake back on had some fluid get into a few of the cylinders..more than i thought. So we pulled the the plugs and turned it over a few times...(yes we drain the car). Now my question is I have a spit and sputter at idle and only at idle. Driving it runs awesome no hesitation all the way to 6k. Could I have fouled a few plugs?? Vaccum leak??I haven't had a chance to look since it's be raining.. Just asking question before I tackle it again. Thanks.

btw...I can tell a difference from the swap...I fell it more in 3rd & 4th b/c of my 4.10's. But all in all...taking it off and on took us about 1:15 mins or so.

Does the exhaust sound cammy and real hollow? I had that sound when i put my nonpi back together because i left off a vacuum plug.

How long did you wait for the RTV to cure? Im hoping my kit is here by friday :headbang:


=] GRATS! Get her fixed.

edit:

98 GT - Pi Intake, A/C, Heater, Pwr Windows, Pwr Locks, 15+MPG, & 145rwhp+. :notworthy:

I don't think its a vaccum line...I'll be changing plugs this weekend. I gave the silicone about 10mins and dropped on the intake. FYI, check all the little gasket for the thermostat on the bottom side. I didn't have had to pull the intake back off and cleaned it up real good. I also laid down a bead of silicone around them as well.

funny sig...lol I updated it.

Did you wait the 24 hours to let the RTV FULLY cure is what i meant ccasion14:

Also did y our exhaust tone changed while driving?

 

[SnakedMark8]

I'm not understanding how you got coolant into the intake ports. I've never had that happen and I've done this swap countless times. By the sound of your last post did you use a used intake or gaskets? I hope you get it straightened out.

 

[Twista]

I'm not understanding how you got coolant into the intake ports. I've never had that happen and I've done this swap countless times. By the sound of your last post did you use a used intake or gaskets? I hope you get it straightened out.

Maybe he didnt drain the radiator before he pulled the intake ?? Dunno