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[MENTION=8889]justinschmidt1[/MENTION] I didn't wanna Jack that dudes thread any more so I made my own. What is it you dislike about them so much? I mean if everything was setup "properly" which I put quotations because that is a very stretched term lol, wouldn't everything be fine? I mean on a 400hp low boost tune wouldn't everything function right?

I know about the 10x more work involved but that doesn't phase me honestly. Centri just isn't my thing dude

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Yeah yeah haters gonna hate lol. I'm half tempted to say fukk it and not put it back together at all. I do not want to run a vortech. No offense to anyone who has one but it's just too played out imo. I like to be different. And I'm tired of getting nowhere with this car lol

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turbo's are cool, might eventually like to do a set up someday on something. But turbo set up is much more complicated than a sc.

I think you should keep pursing your search for a kb. Plus you'll love the sound of a sc! Makes you so happy :)
 

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I didn't read your post, I don't care what it says but title says turbo? my answer is yes do it.

Edit: Just read through the thread:

turbo's are cool, might eventually like to do a set up someday on something. But turbo set up is much more complicated than a sc.
I think you should keep pursing your search for a kb. Plus you'll love the sound of a sc! Makes you so happy :)


A turbo setup is no more complicated than a blower setup and is more efficient, way more efficient. You're still tapping an oil return/feed line, installing the manifolds/flipping the factory ones around is no more complicated than installing headers on a N/A or blower car. If you're not good at plumbing or use cheap fittings or strip them during install you'll have leakage problems, same goes for a blower car.

Only thing that's a little oddball compared to installing a blower is you need to swap your k-member out for a tubular one, that's an upgrade in my book so I don't see the problem :)

Also, God created turbo lag so N/A & supercharged cars can try to keep up
:p

And as far as sound goes, nothing compares to a badass turbo spooling up :headbang:

Skip to the 1:10 mark


http://youtu.be/rDPkm9qqA8Q
 

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Turbo is the way to go. This has been known for a while in the car world. Go turbo, and never look back. What's wrong with something like an On3 kit? That honestly looks way less intense than what I went through putting the Tork Tech kit on my car. No belts? No problems.
 
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On3 was the intended route Foof. And should the day come I get a built motor then I will replace the On3 turbo, bov, and wastegate.

Orangey basically dude, tho this might not make sense to anyone but myself.... The turbo is 10x easier for me to do than any form of s/c. Why? Cost. I can't save up even $3k and buy a used one when I can spend about the same and get just about everything I need for a turbo, new. And save up $5k for a new s/c? Ha. That'll be the day my man. I'm struggling to save up the just under $3k I would need for an On3 kit with the k member and coilovers. I just can't save money for squat, don't make enough to save the $5k and get the car on the road by July, and just simply have no desire too. I only spent $5k on the whole car lol. My logic is irrational I know, but it all makes sense to me.

To install turbo:
Manifolds
Duct work
Turbo
Intercooler
BOV
Wastegate

That's basically it. Little oddity's here and there, yes, but overall really not a hard install considering On3 has an entire kit already laid out. JS the kit I would be buying is newer than the one you had, I would have to guess by now they would have worked out any kinks your kit had, and hopefully didn't create more in the process. I've done some digging and more times that not guys recommend On3 to other people (on the forums.) They say that for a cheap kit it was actually well made and everything fit and functioned like they should.

We'll see. I still have the towel, haven't thrown it in.... Yet... This car has been hell for me lol. Then you got my damn Jeep that everything has gone smooth on. I don't get it. O well it is what it is

Turbo lag is gonna suck, no denying that whatsoever, but when it builds up all disappointment will be gone :)
 

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fair enough :p Still pretty bias towards supercharger as you can see below in my sig, both vehicles are.

I don't know too much about turbo, but i thought the disadvantages to them was: cost, installation, weight, lag. And possibly the tuning?
Where as a supercharger has disadvantage: Take power away to run/ not as efficient.

My opinion likely isnt correct as i don't have too much experience with turbo.
 
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fair enough :p Still pretty bias towards supercharger as you can see below in my sig, both vehicles are.

I don't know too much about turbo, but i thought the disadvantages to them was: cost, installation, weight, lag. And possibly the tuning?
Where as a supercharger has disadvantage: Take power away to run/ not as efficient.

My opinion likely isnt correct as i don't have too much experience with turbo.


Haha nor did/do I my man. Just did a ton of research, and did some talking to friends who run turbo 2v's. It's a pretty common thing around here... I love s/c's, always have always will, but I've always wanted a turbo man. Maybe now I'll have the dedication/motivation to do it.

I was just curious as to why he says nay to the turbo route.

What are your plans for turbo tho?

And honestly if something breaks on mine, I'm not gonna be too bent out of shape about it. I'm having enough enjoyment driving my Jeep right now, I couldn't even care less at this point if I get it done. Which is good because then I can take the time to install everything right. Even installing everything right, shit can and will go wrong. I'm ready for it. I've got 140k on the clock, something bad WILL happen. There is no denying that

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killnthrill, look at a paxton? looks like around 3500 after a really quick search

After some quick research does look like turbo kit can be cheaper, still makes me question it... There has to be some sort of disadvantage with it...
 

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Yeah yeah haters gonna hate lol. I'm half tempted to say fukk it and not put it back together at all. I do not want to run a vortech. No offense to anyone who has one but it's just too played out imo. I like to be different. And I'm tired of getting nowhere with this car lol

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No matter how hard you try you're not going to be different. You drive a Mustang, anything you can think of has been done thousands of times. LoL

But seriously, go turbo and never look back. You're going to run into problems no matter what setup you go with. Might as well make it worth it!
 
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Truest statement I've heard in a loooong time bud. And by different I really mean not what EVERY one does. Only what the few million people that wanted to be different do. Lol. Couldn't agree more... Damn Mustangs
 

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I know of a Hellion kit going for 3,800. Id have to check but I am pretty sure it comes with everything youd need besides a tuner and tune.

If you go with on3 at least upgrade to the Master Power turbo. The on3 turbos are hit and miss.
 
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Do a v6 kill! :p not many people do them :p

Lol man you already did the V6 so that's out of the option! :)

I know of a Hellion kit going for 3,800. Id have to check but I am pretty sure it comes with everything youd need besides a tuner and tune.

If you go with on3 at least upgrade to the Master Power turbo. The on3 turbos are hit and miss.

I have all of maybe a grand right now. Gonna try to hold on to this tho, last time I had a grand I spent half of it on my Jeep and the other half on gas for the Jeep lol... And yeah that's what I hear people saying, at least those that have turbo issues. I'll have to look into the cost difference between master and On3. Some day the plan is to upgrade to a GT35R...

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Turbos are definitely cool, they run more efficient, lag is NOT an issue unless you size it wrong.

But if you look at the pros/cons, you can say what you want about installation, the s/c wins. Hands down, you'll be up and running in a weekend with a s/c. Either one you will need supporting fuel/tuning mods.

SC, install brackets, head unit, piping, and a belt. Possibly tap a oil supply/return.

TURBO, depending on kit you'll be removing body parts, k-member mod/replace, 1/2 the exhaust needs modded, front of engine compartment needs a shit-ton of room, a bunch of electronics need relocated, a mile of intake piping with a possible i/c, and all of this stuff needs clearance which your enginebay DOES NOT HAVE. You also need to drill/tap and oil supply and possibly a water supply too if the turbo is worth a shit.

The tuning may be a little more difficult with a trbo, but you need to find a tuner that is capable either way.

Now the maintenance, the turbo is gonna be 1000% more maintenance. These cars just aren't built to handle the heat these things make. You've seen the vids of the glowing red exhaust manifolds/turbo exhaust housings, yea that's what hapens under WOT when you run them hard. You'll be spending more coin on protecting stuff, time on re-adjusting stuff, and there is ALLWAYS something that needs fixed or added.

Show me someone that DDs a turbo Mustang? Now show me a DD s/c'd Mustang. Listen to Justin, he's been there and is recommending the smart option.

Now if this were a toy and you don't care if it runs, then by all means if you have the coin. Truth is, most turbo retrofit Mustangs end up sold because they are unreliable. But when they run right, they make awesome power.
 

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